Loose Dogs chasing wildlife problems

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Originally Posted by fishgurru

You can shoot them with a paint ball gun on your own property. At least your not killing the dogs and getting into legal problems. I raised free range chickens for years and had problems with neighborhood dogs chasing and trying to kill my chickens. When you hit them with a paint ball you have the proof that they were on your property loose and the neighbor can't deny it. That way CO can charge them..

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A farmer could destroy a dog if it is after his livestock or animals. But you better have pretty good proof.

Only a LEO can destroy a dog for chasing wildlife. For anyone else to do it, they would likely be facing criminal charges, a civil suit and a firearms ban.

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Originally Posted by cramadog2

2 neighbours have dogs that run loose almost constantly for 2 years now. Last December they were seen chasing deer. The incident was mentioned to the MNR, though be it a CO from Guelph and this is in the Dunnville area.

Thursday morning 3 dogs were loose and a turkey hunter saw one chasing a very pregnant doe. The hunter never called it in. Can he call after the fact, can I call that incident in, or just the concern for birthing deer and turkeys. I just found out about this tonight. Anybody have any experiences like this?

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Contact the neighbors,directly. Warn them if their dogs are seen again,they'll be reported to the by-law office. Every municipality in Ontario has dogs running at large and leash by-laws. Fines are nothing to sneeze at. They're damn expensive in most cases.

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Originally Posted by JUDGE

If they are on your property I would shoot them. SSS

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Absolutely legal in defense of livestock,BUT,they're better be livestock on your property or you'll find yourself in serious trouble if you can't defend your actions.

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Originally Posted by Duckguy

CO's do not have more power to search or anything, than police do.

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Oh,yes they do. While enforcing the FWCA,any Police Constable or CO (among other wildlife and fisheries officers)may enter upon and search any property,building or vehicle,without a warrant where R&PG exists that a FWCA offense has,is or is about to be or to prevent an offense from being committed.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Contact the neighbors,directly. Warn them if their dogs are seen again,they'll be reported to the by-law office. Every municipality in Ontario has dogs running at large and leash by-laws. Fines are nothing to sneeze at. They're damn expensive in most cases.




Absolutely legal in defense of livestock,BUT,they're better be livestock on your property or you'll find yourself in serious trouble if you can't defend your actions.




Oh,yes they do. While enforcing the FWCA,any Police Constable or CO (among other wildlife and fisheries officers)may enter upon and search any property,building or vehicle,without a warrant where R&PG exists that a FWCA offense has,is or is about to be or to prevent an offense from being committed.

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That's my point. Police have the same authority under the FWCA. The authority comes from the act not the position However, I believe a warrant is still required if exigent circumstances don't exist.

Problem was every time we called the co the dogs were in the house or chained up neighbor denied that it was her dogs. So unoffically was suggested to get a paintball gun and use it that way the neighbor can't deny it when the dog is covered with paint ball paint. Yes I could have shot the dogs on sight but it's not the dogs falt it's the owners not controlling their animals. When we caught the dogs and nailed them with a paint ball the neighbor got charged and the dogs stayed chained. No dogs were harmed and neighbor learned an expensive lesson.

This is an issue that occurs many times - if you complain to the neighbor about the dogs and nothing is done your right back to the beginning - now you have a neighbor that doesn't like you - if anything happens to the dog(s) then most likely you will be blamed for getting rid of the dogs - even if someone else did - it would be nice if you can capture the dogs somehow - with a leg hold trap or cage - and then take them to the dog pound - then there is always the SSS option - some people find this a terrible thing to do - some don't - one thing it is better not to complain to the dog owner because if you do decide to do something about the dogs they will never know what happened to their dog and you won't be blamed - calling the authorities is a waste of time - what are the chances of the dogs running loose on your property and have a cop or whomever being there - shooting a paint ball at the dog doesn't really prove anything - you could have shot it while it was on the owner's property -

Here's your options - SSS - catch the dogs - let the dogs kill the deer - take your pick -

In NS at one time MNR use to say shoot them, but times have probably changed these days

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Originally Posted by JoePa

This is an issue that occurs many times - if you complain to the neighbor about the dogs and nothing is done your right back to the beginning - now you have a neighbor that doesn't like you - if anything happens to the dog(s) then most likely you will be blamed for getting rid of the dogs - even if someone else did - it would be nice if you can capture the dogs somehow - with a leg hold trap or cage - and then take them to the dog pound - then there is always the SSS option - some people find this a terrible thing to do - some don't - one thing it is better not to complain to the dog owner because if you do decide to do something about the dogs they will never know what happened to their dog and you won't be blamed - calling the authorities is a waste of time - what are the chances of the dogs running loose on your property and have a cop or whomever being there - shooting a paint ball at the dog doesn't really prove anything - you could have shot it while it was on the owner's property -

Here's your options - SSS - catch the dogs - let the dogs kill the deer - take your pick -

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Sums it up well. Don't start down the road of reporting the dogs and then decide to take drastic action. You'll be suspect number one. I think if you're letting your dogs run loose ON A REGULAR basis you take your chances unfortunately. Any dog can get away once in a while but if they're repeat offenders then .....Stuff Happens.

For once, I agree with JoePA
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Shoot, shovel, shut up.

As much as many of us love our dogs.... dogs running on private property are a huge nuisance to wild life.
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End of problem.

Dogs are a dime a dozen.
If you don't believe that, then you are probably a responsible owner who keeps their dog under control and therefore close to home.

Trail cam pic of the dogs on your property.

People need to understand the ramifications if you get caught, killing a dog without legal justification.

You're going to get arrested, you're going to get charged, you are going to get fingerprinted and photographed.

You'll likely be charged with cruelty and mischief and likely have all your firearms and license seized.

Then you'll go to court and have your picture plastered all over the front page of the local newspapers and social media.

And you're going to pay a lawyer a bunch of money.

And all that happens whether you're convicted or not.

Then if you are convicted, you're going to spend a big part of your life regretting your actions. Not to mention a pretty good civil suit.

Choose wisely.