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We still buy meat from our local butcher (never from the food chains) and vegetables from local growers that we know don't use chemical fertilizers. There's a huge number of farms around our area that don't. Admittedly,it's difficult to do through a long winter,but,you just have to do the best you can to mitigate the risk to your health. Unless there's a complete governmental ban on all GMO's,it's almost impossible to avoid completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
True. The difficult part is knowing how they free range or how the oat feed is grown/harvested for the chicken feed. How they grow the cow feed and harvest it and do they supplement manure with commercial fert.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Other than that it's whether they use antibiotics(for cattle, it's incorporated into commercial chicken feed) or growth hormones.
When I raised cattle, the only medicinal type product that I used was to ensure calving would all be at the same time.
In case anyone is/was wondering who the commentator is in that presentation;
GMO spokesman turned GMO whistleblower
followed the science
interview by Tsiporah Grignon
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• Dr. Thierry Vrain, a former soil biologist and genetic scientist, worked for Agriculture Canada for 30 years. He was the designated spokesperson to assure the public of the safety of GMO crops. Since retiring 10 years ago, after taking into account scientific evidence ignored by most of the bio-tech industry promoters and government regulators, Dr. Vrain has reversed that position and now warns of the dangers from GMOs.
http://gmosummit.org/former-pro-gmo-scientist/
Sure there is,their called IP...identity Preserved. Grown all over North America. Including mine. No glysophate used at all. Simple to grow lots of varieties to suit climates and most importantly heat units.Quote:
Originally Posted by seabast
I truly wish I lived on a property big enough to grow my own food. I totally know we are being poisoned by capitalism.
I knew a guy that grew his own food, and his kids who were probably 11 and 12 at the time had NEVER been on antibiotics, because
they never got sick!
If you have to buy "organic" food, then it costs an arm and a leg. You also don't know if it's truly organic. I don't trust lables anymore, too many liars out there (companies caught putting plastic into rice bags to bulk them up, companies caught using engine fluids in edible oils to make them look green and call it olive oil to make a premium). People will tell you it's organic, and some will lie just to make a quick buck.
The only way to truly know you aren't poisining your system is to 100% grow your own food, and 100% know what you are feeding your food (and that it is natural).
Don't worry, there is not a deer in SW Ontario that is GMO free and organic, no way to control what they eat.
I do find it interesting that we still live longer even though farmers have been trying to kill us since the 60s, I guess they are not very good at what they do.
Sure there is, but less of 10% of the global production isn't a lot... And I'm very skeptical about "Organic" product from the grocery store. Like, how long does a farmer has to wait to grow "Organic" product in a field that grown "Non-Organic" for decates? How long that it takes to rain to wash off a field of all the crap?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jow
I wish I could have some land to grow food too...
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Originally Posted by seabast
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The National Organic Program (run by the USDA) is in charge of the legal definition of organic in the United States and also performs organic certification.
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Organic vegetables at a farmers' market
Organic certification is a certification process for producers of organic food and other organic agricultural products. In general, any business directly involved in food production can be certified, including seed suppliers, farmers, food processors, retailers and restaurants.
Requirements vary from country to country (List of countries with organic agriculture regulation), and generally involve a set of production standards for growing, storage, processing, packaging and shipping that include:
- avoidance of synthetic chemical inputs (e.g. fertilizer, pesticides, antibiotics, food additives), irradiation, and the use of sewage sludge;[1]
- avoidance of genetically modified seed;
- use of farmland that has been free from prohibited chemical inputs for a number of years (often, three or more);
- for livestock, adhering to specific requirements for feed, housing, and breeding;
- keeping detailed written production and sales records (audit trail);
- maintaining strict physical separation of organic products from non-certified products;
- undergoing periodic on-site inspections.
In some countries, certification is overseen by the government, and commercial use of the term organic is legally restricted. Certified organic producers are also subject to the same agricultural, food safety and other government regulations that apply to non-certified producers.
Certified organic foods are not necessarily pesticide-free, certain pesticides are allowed
I'm willing to bet we live longer due to medical advances, not necessarily better food we are eating. I can reassure you the quality of food is no where near as good as it used to. Have you tried real organic free range chicken, as in you know the farmer and what he feeds the chicken. If you do, you will know that it's almost impossible to cut their bones with a knife or scissors. Whereas the chicken you get in the grocery store you can break the bones with your pinky finger. Why? Due to growth hormones. Which we eat, which enlarges our hearts, which leads to excess fat ... the solution ... medicine ... to prevent heart attacks. Are we healthier, nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
It is illegal in Canada to use growth hormones in chicken, the chickens are a cross bird that grows quickly which increases the yield while reducing the age and therefore reduces the cost to the consumer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
Yes I eat clean chicken, I raise my own.
Food now is more plentiful then it ever has been in the past and the availability to have healthy food is at a very high level. "Organic" food is no better and no worse than non-organic, is just costs you a lot more. Look into organic feed costs, it is the same barley, oats, corn, soy and everything else as the non-organic and guess what, there has not been any corn that has not been manipulated to increase yields and develop it into something better, there is no difference.
Side by side people cannot tell the taste difference between organic or non, I can cut 1 apple in 2 and tell people one half is organic and they will claim it taste better, it is the 6in between your ears.
If you want to eat certified organic than have at it but don't claim that you eat organic because you eat white tailed deer, they have just as much or more round up ready soy and corn in their systems then farmed cattle or chickens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_IoNQHMFLk