AS long as you are not crawling you can wait. Take a pill for the pain. :rolleyes:
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AS long as you are not crawling you can wait. Take a pill for the pain. :rolleyes:
God help us.
The way it was explained to me Terry, and why people wait so long. As Jaycee said for many of these procedures theres a cap on how many any specific surgeon can do in a year. Lets say, your knee/hip ( Im not sure what is or isn't capped) goes. You might hit the jackpot and go to a surgeon who hasn't capped out ( Sharons cataract) and get it done in less than 18-12 months. Realistically your put on a list that might look like
2016: no vacancy
2017: no vacancy
2018: Your procedure #
Blows my mind people don't get it. The whys and hows this province has gone down the toilet. Why various services have gone down the toilet, why nurses are being let go by the hundreds/thousands (well outside large population centres anyways).Why funding for IBI is gone, why our taxes our soaring, why peons without Pensions are in a world of hurt and can't find two nickels for their own RSPs, why seniors on fixed incomes are getting crushed by soaring hydro, taxes, especially those outside the golden toronto, red GTA.
And on
And on
And on
And the crapper is, even when theres a change at QP, fixing it is going to be painful to.
But don't gripe about it, don't post about it.
Well Im betting as with 3rd party advertising, Unions, conflict of interest, corruption and the chief elections office growing very concerned.
A city dweller, who doesn't see these things (even though many in cities are likewise capped out), who thinks every Teacher and every Police officer should take every raise they can get, despite being far better off than the vast majority of tax payers, and Unions are benevolent, pure without greed, sin or self interest.
Has again, learned something new
Depends on the insurance coverage. But do some research into our health care system and how bad it is, before looking down your nose at the US. Three real life examples.Quote:
Originally Posted by puc911
1) Guy I know was diagnosed with a form of brain cancer. He flew to some place in or around San Fran. He was done, home within a couple weeks.
2) Guy I worked with. Went to Mount Sanai here. Diagnosed as terminal, given 2-3years. After about 6-8 months he went to the Mayo Clinic. After a few weeks he got the good news that he had been misdiagnosed. The reason?
Old faulty equipment. The hospital here tried to settle out of court. Offered him large sums of money. He settled for 0.01 and told the hospital to buy new equipment so no one else would go through what he went through.
3) Poster here on OOD ( I won't mention his user name, he can chime in if he wants) went about a year, waiting for his cancer treatment.
And myself.
I went almost 14months, read that again 14 months with daily, major and I do mean major hemorrhaging (Nose bleeds but don't mistake them as little nose bleeds that could be easily stopped...Im talking huge blood loss, streams of blood, not drips, that could go 20 minutes before stopping)....I was getting my nose cauterized about every 3 weeks while they tried to figure it out. One month after the 3rd biopsy I got the dreaded come in and sit down call, " We don't know how we missed it the first two times"
4 months later the surgery to remove the tumor. Four months of not knowing the if the ticking time bomb in my head would go off permanently, four months of wondering if I'd see my kids at X-Mas, while waiting...........
/looks at guy #1
Our healthcare is a joke, a sad one. Not saying its not good or without it's good aspect. The sad joke is, the majority think its all that and look down our noses at the US.
Well they do, until they run into the growing and many and wide cracks
Almost forgot. My form of cancer, which statistically is kind of scary? Well after the surgery when they told me it went well and they were sure they got it all...well it has upto an 80% recurrence rate. While it's been 8 years now and I'm told that statistically if hasn't come back, at this point it won't. But guess what I'll be doing if the major nose bleeds as I call them start again. I'll be going to the US right away. And I don't care how much it cost me.............while still paying through the nose here (pardon the pun).
JoePa, It is about time for you to take off your " Rose Coloured Glasses " and go see an optometrist!, things aren't that good and rosy down south either.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
I spoke with a friend of mine whose brother lives in Pennsylvania , Lancaster County , and he had to wait just short of 8 months for his knee replacement surgery and it cost him a pile of money , which we do not have to pay out for the same procedure.
Also despite the fact that many down their are armed and do carry , there are by far more innocent people killed every day than up here in our Canada, again JoePa, throw away those rose coloured glasses that you are always looking through.
There are not many pills that can take away the pain from bone rubbing on bone , [no cartilage ] in my knee joint, and I do not like what happens when I take "oxycodone/oxycocet".,.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharon
I know you were being sarcastic.
I am putting most of the blame of this problem on to my G.P., as for the last five years and four x rays , he has always been telling me that I have an "arthritis problem . it wasn't until around last Christmas when I went to see him again and said that there must be more to it than arthritis. Again after more x rays this time they were sent to a "sports medicine doctor " who immediately after seing the x rays said he could do nothing for me as I needed knee replacement surgery and HE is the one that made my contacts with the Orthopedic Surgeon .
Needless to say , this week I am going to have "words " with my G.P., as I have been giving this a lot of thought over the past couple of months , and put a lot of blame on him as he is the one that should have been able to read the x rays properly and initiated corrective solutions to my problem much sooner , at least by two maybe three years .
Well let me just say this - a buddy of mine had both knees replaced at the same time - from the time he decided to have it done and the time it was done was approximately 3 weeks - his cost was zero - this guy in Lancaster county must have had some other issues for him to wait that long - my knees are good but if I ever had to have them replaced it would cost me nothing - 85% of the cost would be covered by Medicare and the remaining 15% would be covered by a supplemental insurance plan I have that is covered by my former employer - and I'll bet that it wouldn't take me more than a couple weeks to schedule such a procedure - hospitals advertise how good their staff is in doing knee and hip replacements and attempt to get more customers - there isn't a waiting list - when the government gets involved things always go down the tubes - you should know that by now
Oh - one other thing - if I have anything wrong other than a cold or some minor thing I would go directly to a specialist - a GP isn't trained to deal with more complicated issues -
You can't go to a specialist here without a GP referral. The problem in Canada isn't what Doctors bill or what we pay nurses and techs. It's the the enormous multiple levels of highly paid and gold plated pension paper pushers and admin staff. I bet if you broke down the percentage of money paid to staff who actually administer care to a patient you would be shocked. In this era of information technology a huge portion of the admin staff are now redundant.
I have had zero wait times for anything while in Canada however I only have dealt with specialists. Never had a family doctor in Canada.
Just recently(about 3 months ago) I was at a clinic and the on duty doc asked me if she could offer her services as my family doctor.
I didn't realize the signifigance of that conversation until my wife explained how difficult it is to obtain a doctor in Canada.
So in summary, I have no complaints about service but I am against gov. health care anywhere/everywhere because of the governmental control and lack of citizen control it causes even on non medical related subjects and related businesses.