50 killed in Florida

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Originally Posted by terrym

I guarantee you Trudough has let in scores of Islamic extremists who will just sit as sleepers and then strike here. All to win an election. I hope he can live with himself if some fanatic blows up a daycare centre.

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You really think it hasn't happen before he got in power?!?
IMO, few of you guys need to think for a couple of hours before writing because you make no sense and you can't even see it.

It really doesn't later who's in power, terrorists will always get in. You can't filter everyone and they don't come out of a cave, they are educated and have money.

Sad event though and unfortunately not the last. I hope the 99% of good Muslims understand quickly it's time for them to clean up their own or it won't end well for nobody, including us!

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Originally Posted by seabast

You really think it hasn't happen before he got in power?!?
IMO, few of you guys need to think for a couple of hours before writing because you make no sense and you can't even see it.

It really doesn't later who's in power, terrorists will always get in. You can't filter everyone and they don't come out of a cave, they are educated and have money.

Sad event though and unfortunately not the last. I hope the 99% of good Muslims understand quickly it's time for them to clean up their own or it won't end well for nobody, including us!

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Here's why that won't happen !
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Here's why that won't happen !
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

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I won't argue those numbers and fact, I bet half of the planet hate the Western life but all I really care is the one living along us. A huge majority of good ones (that I grow up, work and live with) need to get their side cleaned up before we all lose patience and ignaorance wins.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

Now we get back to the issue of more good people having guns with them - here is another case of no one having a gun to stop the killer before he kills a lot of people - there were around 100 people in the place when he started shooting - if only a couple of the patrons had guns they could have ended the killings - so what is the answer - more good people need to carry guns - plain and simple - you stop a bad guy with a gun by a good guy with a gun

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Just so you have some clarity here, the guy started shooting outside the club and a police officer who was stationed at the club exchanged fire with the gunman and was not able to stop him before he entered the club, so this point it no longer valid.

Lets see what the NRA has to say about this, we know that Trump is all his glory has already made this about him.

Holy mackeral Fox - how does what you say make what I said invalid? - maybe the cop was a poor shot - are you telling me that if several people in that crowd were armed things would not have been different - come on man - give me a break -

Another point to consider - why did he pick out a gay bar and not some other place? - do you think maybe that he didn't like gays or was it because his religion condemned their life style - or was he mad because gays are pushing their life style on others who don't agree with it - some interesting questions - it sounds like there was another guy out in California who was going to bust up the gay pride parade but was caught before he could act - very interesting to say the least - people do over react at times -

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Originally Posted by JoePa

Holy mackeral Fox - how does what you say make what I said invalid? - maybe the cop was a poor shot - are you telling me that if several people in that crowd were armed things would not have been different - come on man - give me a break -

Another point to consider - why did he pick out a gay bar and not some other place? - do you think maybe that he didn't like gays or was it because his religion condemned their life style - or was he mad because gays are pushing their life style on others who don't agree with it - some interesting questions - it sounds like there was another guy out in California who was going to bust up the gay pride parade but was caught before he could act - very interesting to say the least - people do over react at times -

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What I am saying is that a gun does not always stop something like this from happening, the guy was nuts and a trained police officer was not able to stop him. I do not believe that a bunch of people in the club with guns would have reduced the carnage, quite possibly it could have increased the number of dead by collateral damage. When as the last time you were in a club? From what I recall it is essentially a mass of bodies, nothing to stop a rifle round, many people would be hit with each shot and another gun in there would have done the same.

At this point they are looking at a hate crime towards the gay community, at least the heads of the Muslim community in the states has instantly condemned this act on another minority group.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

Holy mackeral Fox - how does what you say make what I said invalid?

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Full on face palm.

Florida , is one of the states that does have a concealed carry law, apparently the people at the LGBT Club IN Orlando do not believe that they should go into these clubs while being armed.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

Holy mackeral Fox - how does what you say make what I said invalid? - maybe the cop was a poor shot - are you telling me that if several people in that crowd were armed things would not have been different - come on man - give me a break -

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Yes, we do!
How many time in the US a gun owner stopped a mass shooting? It aint like tv, when the fecal matter hits the fan people run for their life, with gun or without, and couldn't care less about who's behind.....

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Originally Posted by jaycee

Florida , is one of the states that does have a concealed carry law, apparently the people at the LGBT Club IN Orlando do not believe that they should go into these clubs while being armed.

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Most clubs, even in states with cc, don't allow weapons. For obvious reasons.

JoePa's statements are mind boggling (as well as completely contradictory).

Yeah, sure, a bunch of drunk, high and deafened partiers, packed into a club like sardines would totally be capable of firing through a mass of seething humanity, while everyone panics in terror, in extremely low light levels... to successfully kill the murderer.

Right.