Hunting reading material, entertainment and thanks

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[COLOR=#333333]I enjoy both but I find bow hunting tends to have better videographers. Seen lots of Cam Hanes stuff and own his first book. Hes a cool dude, pretty extreme, but very dedicated.

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As he has gained more steam and popularity I have been a little less interested in his content. He really is just a little to intense and cheesey sometimes. I am not personally the biggest 'Jesus' guy and I find every now and then Cam has to throw a plug to the man upstairs; which gets a little corny for me. In the end he is crazy impressive, definitely an elite athlete and a wicked bowhunter.

useless: I'll have to check it out.

Gun Nut:
I tried to look it up, but cant find any information on the book would you say its a compilation of hunting stories or more of a linear novel? Either way i have added it to my list, just a matter of how far up or down it is :P

Bowj:

I definitely agree that Meateater has the most 'integrity' of any mainstream hunting shows and i have watched every episode multiple times. That being said; they do have product to sell and some of the hunts can be gimmicky, but for me is a fun change up. I seriously love the cooking episodes. I would recommend you check out his books if you haven't. I have taken so much more away from Steve's books and podcasts than the show. I enjoy the out of anything Steve Rinella but definitely podcasts and novels pull me in more.

I do buy all that i can to support content creators that i enjoy, but a lot of steve's books, TV show and other Hunting TV stuff is available online to torrent if you wanted to 'preview' before you buy it.

Joe has a great podcast and is good to listen to; following anything regularly for a long period of time things get repetitive though. I love stand up, hunting, fitness and anything 'ground breaking' so the podcast aligns with my interests very well. I enjoy the MMA episodes, but some of the fighters (not Brendan Schaub that guy is a character) are not the best guests. I have started fast forwarding any time social justice warrior, politics or the super hippy drug talk; stories and perspective are awesome, its just the same over and over.

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As he has gained more steam and popularity I have been a little less interested in his content. He really is just a little to intense and cheesey sometimes. I am not personally the biggest 'Jesus' guy and I find every now and then Cam has to throw a plug to the man upstairs; which gets a little corny for me. In the end he is crazy impressive, definitely an elite athlete and a wicked bowhunter.

Joe has a great podcast and is good to listen to; following anything regularly for a long period of time things get repetitive though. I love stand up, hunting, fitness and anything 'ground breaking' so the podcast aligns with my interests very well. I enjoy the MMA episodes, but some of the fighters (not Brendan Schaub that guy is a character) are not the best guests. I have started fast forwarding any time social justice warrior, politics or the super hippy drug talk; stories and perspective are awesome, its just the same over and over.

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cameron hanes is very cheesy sometimes. but i like to follow him on facebook and liked some of his podcasts with Joe and the first few of his Keep Hammering podcast were okay. did you see he recently ran a 200 mile ultramarathon? that is an incredible accomplishment. i wouldnt be able to even close to keep up with hunting with him. he needs more hunting videos availabe online though, as his hunts are pretty interesting, but not readily available for free.
however, him and Rogan together have definitely run their course for me. they literally say the same things in every single podcast going over the reasons they hunt and over-justifying it to the non-hunting listeners. cameron is not an interesting speaker in my opinion, however more of his hunts would be cool to see.
im not that into MMA but have found myself gaining interest from some of joes podcasts, and he really knows how to talk about it. but your right some of those guys arent the most interesting to listen to.


recently i have been trying to make some healthier lifestyle choices, and some of joe's guests at least have given some places to start and some subjects to look into further.

one thing to watch for with Joe and some of his guests is they talk out their butts, and dont really know what theyre talking about with some subjects, especially some of the comedians (*cough* brian callen), but take it with a grain of salt and if in doubt do some fact checking. they dont profess to be experts, (except for those who are actually experts, but its obvious when they are) but for the most part theyre just people sitting around shooting the crap, and i find it really entertaining.

the meateater podcasts is unreal, every episode is so intesreting, and i even find myself captivated by his public land talks, even though it doesnt affect me at all. all the JRE with rinella are great, and i recently listened to them all again.
in my opinion meateater does it just right with product placement, he doesnt talk or show off the products, he just uses them when he needs to. and he hunts with some of the staff members of the companies, and in my opinion he doesnt overdo it at all.

randy newbergs hunt talk is okay too, but he is a bit boring, obviously older than me (the way he talk dates him), and talk a lot of US hunting politics which im not interested in.

I drive a lot for work, and I used to listen to lots of local talk radio, and now its mostly podcasts with JRE being my favorite.

anyone have any hunting podcast suggestions??

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Originally Posted by Chenzo191

As he has gained more steam and popularity I have been a little less interested in his content. He really is just a little to intense and cheesey sometimes. I am not personally the biggest 'Jesus' guy and I find every now and then Cam has to throw a plug to the man upstairs; which gets a little corny for me. In the end he is crazy impressive, definitely an elite athlete and a wicked bowhunter.

useless: I'll have to check it out.

Gun Nut:
I tried to look it up, but cant find any information on the book would you say its a compilation of hunting stories or more of a linear novel? Either way i have added it to my list, just a matter of how far up or down it is :P

Bowj:

I definitely agree that Meateater has the most 'integrity' of any mainstream hunting shows and i have watched every episode multiple times. That being said; they do have product to sell and some of the hunts can be gimmicky, but for me is a fun change up. I seriously love the cooking episodes. I would recommend you check out his books if you haven't. I have taken so much more away from Steve's books and podcasts than the show. I enjoy the out of anything Steve Rinella but definitely podcasts and novels pull me in more.

I do buy all that i can to support content creators that i enjoy, but a lot of steve's books, TV show and other Hunting TV stuff is available online to torrent if you wanted to 'preview' before you buy it.

Joe has a great podcast and is good to listen to; following anything regularly for a long period of time things get repetitive though. I love stand up, hunting, fitness and anything 'ground breaking' so the podcast aligns with my interests very well. I enjoy the MMA episodes, but some of the fighters (not Brendan Schaub that guy is a character) are not the best guests. I have started fast forwarding any time social justice warrior, politics or the super hippy drug talk; stories and perspective are awesome, its just the same over and over.

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Secrets of the Elders: is a how to book on hunting the whitetail, some of the chapter titles: One Well-Placed Shot - a review of firearms to used, The Way Of The Whitetail - it habitat and eating habits, Tactics Of The Hunt - ways to hunt whitetail, Tracking And Feeding - ways to evaluate the whitetail's presence in an area, A Shot, Once Loosed - choosing hunting companions, being aware of the possibility of other hunters and non-hunters in the bush, keeping yourself visible, other safety concerns, The Yucky Stuff - field dressing concerns, Venerable Venison - What parts may not be safe to eat, food preparation and cooking, Of Trophies & Leather - preparing antler mounts and a process for tanning deer hide. This is not a novel, the author talks about actual hunting experiences.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

Brian Callen is a clown. When i am in a silly mood i can listen to a podcast with him, but even on the show they fact check the out of him and its always 99% diarrhea.

As said before steve is the way to go for quality hunting entertainment and knowledge.

Randy is a little dry and very political, but very informative and when i run out of JRE and Meateater podcasts its one of my go-tos.

I have checked out a couple of others but most are pretty bad podcasts wise. I listened to a different "hunt talk" with a guy named peter wood. it was southern ontario based but really bad production value, planning, content and ran the same annoying 2 minute add every 15 minutes on every podcast. I have not listened to it in about a year maybe things have changed?

Anyone else on the forum given JRE or meateater a listen? I normally pop one on to keep the suicidal thoughts at bay while working on some spreadsheets. :P

Gun Nut: dude you are a freakin wizard, its definitely been bumped up the list thank you for looking into all of that.

I've listened to jre for maybe 6 years or so, either way a long time, we'll before I got serious into hunting. Mainly for the comics and being a fan of his (ufc and his standup especially)but I've listened to them all. It's a motivating podcast in a lot of ways, having that distraction at work and on drives helped me figure a lot of my own stuff out and make changes, including hunting. It was something I wanted to do for a long time and never had a way in and saw it as an impossible task on my own with no exposure to it. His podcast helped give me the attitude to just go for it and work at it and it made a difference.

From there I moved onto rinella after hearing him on jre. Listened to all the meateater podcasts and as much of the show as I can get, read his two guidebooks and his book meateater about his life hunting. Whatever opinions have of these guys and their content is fine but to a newbie unsure of where to start and looking to absorb as much info as possible these guys have been a huge help. I listen to hank Shaws podcast too but I go on his website almost nightly, there's so many amazing looking recipes and instructions on how to prepare and cook different cuts of wild game and use all you can, I'm into that Imy super new but want to do and know it all. Preserving hides/skulls/antlers and any other bits, using as much of the animal I can, making amazing dishes and learning the art of charcuterie, hank Shaw has been a lot of help for.most of that, just getting more and more prepared.

Thanks for those videos posted up top!

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I've listened to jre for maybe 6 years or so, either way a long time, we'll before I got serious into hunting. Mainly for the comics and being a fan of his (ufc and his standup especially)but I've listened to them all. It's a motivating podcast in a lot of ways, having that distraction at work and on drives helped me figure a lot of my own stuff out and make changes, including hunting. It was something I wanted to do for a long time and never had a way in and saw it as an impossible task on my own with no exposure to it. His podcast helped give me the attitude to just go for it and work at it and it made a difference.

From there I moved onto rinella after hearing him on jre. Listened to all the meateater podcasts and as much of the show as I can get, read his two guidebooks and his book meateater about his life hunting. Whatever opinions have of these guys and their content is fine but to a newbie unsure of where to start and looking to absorb as much info as possible these guys have been a huge help. I listen to hank Shaws podcast too but I go on his website almost nightly, there's so many amazing looking recipes and instructions on how to prepare and cook different cuts of wild game and use all you can, I'm into that Imy super new but want to do and know it all. Preserving hides/skulls/antlers and any other bits, using as much of the animal I can, making amazing dishes and learning the art of charcuterie, hank Shaw has been a lot of help for.most of that, just getting more and more prepared.

Thanks for those videos posted up top!

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Its cool to hear from someone with a similar start, especially because it looks like you are a little further along than I am.

I have had the exact same experience with JRE and Rinella. I am just finishing up Hank Shaw's Hunt, gather, cook. He is definitely a wealth of knowledge and a bit of a 'visionary' when it comes to cooking wild game. I have always loved the idea of hunting, but it was JRE that finally pushed me to go out and drop the 300 bucks for the courses and pursue something that i am passionate about.

Rinella has been a perfect role model to motivate me to get into the field and appreciate the finer things in life. Its too easy to go through life bored, on your phone, taking in as much garbage as you can to feel some sense of entertainment or fulfillment. Getting outside, Learning, reading, listening to educated, articulate people discuss topics of interest; all while pursuing something you are passionate about has ultimately been what i have been able to take away from it all.

I did not know Hank Shaw had a podcast! i am going to download a bunch tonight to get ready for my first hunt Saturday. I have been really interested in rabbit hunting this year and I have been looking for a good trustworthy and compelling resource for maybe doing something with the pelts.

How long ago did you get your start? I have asked this question to other people with similar backgrounds but; would you have any tips for a newbie trying to get a start with little to no exposure?

I started last summer and it was a long time coming. Just started with the courses to get my feet wet and used them as a template of what to study. Since then I've done little hunting aside from 1 goose hunt (I missed haha) and some squirrel/rabbit hunts on my own where nothing was seen but it was a good reason for a hike in the bush. I spent about a year doing what you are now, researching. It's like school, if you want to be successful, study study study! I used this forum, the resources we've already mentioned and looking up stuff online. I read, watched videos and talked to people who have done it a long time. I had a slight head start in that I went to Fleming college for outdoor adventure skills and ecosystem management. That gave me a foot in the door with amazing experiences in the out of doors without any hunting and minimal fishing. Just learning about the natural world and different ecosystems, things like tree ID for example. I spent a couple summers guiding canoe trips and hiking trips. I'm currently ano exterminator so much of my knowledge gained here about wildlife helps with hunting and many of my customers are farmers and country folk, lots of brains to pick. But I did still spend a long time researching anything and everything online from properly identifying game birds/waterfowl, field dressing and espequally a ton of time learning about firearms and ammunition. I will be doing more waterfowl,upland and small game hunting this year but.my advice is take it slow. You have a whole lifetime of experiences and there is no rush, learn everything you can, talk to people, go for strolls in the bush and just sit and watch. I'm taking it so slow I probably won't try things like turkey and deer until next year, I want to start at the bottom up where many guys started as kids and continue to graduate onto larger game while always sticking to those roots

Just keep doing what your doing absorbing information, it's definitely an incredible pursuit where there's always lots to learn, don't be afraid to make mistakes (non life threatening ones of course) and have fun, I can't wait for work to slow down a bit and get after those rabbits and squirrels, waterfowl and upland birds. I think know I saw this quote on this forum and it's stuck, a bad day in the bush beats a good day on the couch, or something like that :p

I haven't done much hunting yet but am still proud to call myself a hunter and be a part of this community, never felt more fulfilled in a pursuit and yes JRE helped me with that after helping me move away from other less productive and negative lifestyle choices, people can say what they want about the man but he's a great guy who's helped a lot of people.and I've been one for years, not just in hunting but all life choices, perspectives and outlooks, and no one can take that away from me and it only makes me hungrier to do more and be better

Thanks for sharing, Steve Rinella and Joe Rogan I think make great contributions - if nothing else they make my commute that much better.

Love Steve's books, tons of interesting info

I would add the obvious miss here though, the Angler and Hunter TV show and radio show presented by OFAH. I'll admit the shows are hard to find unless you catch them Sunday morning, but they upload all of their radio shows so you can listen like a podcast. There's years of back episodes.

Fair warning - the content is like 60/40 show vs. commercials - but its free and somebodies gotta pay the bills. Plus its really cool to have local content on hunting and fishing

It is good to see that i am not the only one taking advantage of the resources that are Steven Rinella and Joe Rogan. I will have to check out the OFAH program, the commercials do suck. I used to hate when Meateater would interrupt the conversation for a commercial break on their podcasts. The podcasts are now funded and paid for by ZpZ the same company that produces the show, which means no commercials which is nice. I am sure they get a nice kick back from firstlight and all the other reps they have on the show too though.

Looks like there maybe a little more people in favor of Joe and Steve on the forum now. Or no one wants to face a lynch mob that's in favor of 'em. :P

I think the most compelling thing about the OFAH podcast to me would be the local relevance. Do you find that the entire focus is on local information or southern ontario focused content? Or does it have a good mix of general talk and local info?


Alternatively; If any one is looking for something to fill their time some podcasts i listen to unrelated to hunting are:

Bill Burr; he has a great podcast "The monday morning/ Thursday afternoon, just before friday, monday morning" Podcast

Your Mom's house: Tom Segura & Christina Paszitski is super silly but can be a lot of fun (they like fart humor and there are a lot of inside joke surrounding youtube clips they play on the show)

Some radiolab podcasts are decent (a lot can be super pretentious or about very 'politically charged' lefty topics)

Adam Carolla can be a welcomed change when Joe gets annoying and you're waiting on a new Meateater. I listen to his ACS podcast. He kind of reminds me of Dean Blundell who used to be on the Edge, cause he is a bit of a dick