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What better way, to know what your gun can do. Go nutz! I wish I had the space or opportunity to do that anymore. On the farm, in Saskatchewan, I could shoot all day and became very proficient. Now, as a grumpy old man, I don't have as much opportunity. Give 'er!!
Welsh you are ruining my preconceived image of you. Always thought of you as a well heeled gentleman toting a finely crafted Merkel. Now I find out you are a "hold my beer" SKS toting redneck like the rest of us. :joker:Quote:
Originally Posted by welsh
Personally I like to use my 35 Whelen to cut down firewood trees:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
- locate the target tree (usually 10 to 12 inch birch with a suitable backstop)
- set up 100 yards away
- load up with 225 grain accubonds loaded to +/- 2700 fps
- start shooting
My personal best was an 11 inch birch taken down from 100 yards with 11 shots.
Think I need to join a range! I love shooting and need to practice more, don't have any real good spots to just plink at a decent range. But uggggh I need it, so much fun and excitement just shooting targets, cans, fruit or just a stump
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My brother got me a box of clays for Xmas, except I don't have anywhere to blast them! Unless anyone in the area does ;) I'll share! Never shot clays but I know i need to work on it
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I was given a No 4 lend lease Enfield as a wedding gift, one of the most beautiful rifles to shoot, not because of anything other than the history and that it was my brother who gave it to me, heavy as heck so a light recoil for a 303 Brit.
Have you guys ever played poker on the range?
You take a sheet of plywood and staple a deck of cards to it. Then at 100 yards you shoot the cards 1 card each person until you have a hand of 5, best hand wins the pot, do this with a 22 and a 3x scope max, lots of fun.
The 410 slug shot was to see if it had enough energy to shoot a deer, since it is legal in Ontario to do so, not as a way to puff it up and make it the ideal round for a deer but to see what that little thing can do, went through a 10" deep square bucket of water this afternoon with a perfect mushroom, really cool to see.
Next up is to reload for the coyote rifle and then build a 500 yard deer gun from a military rifle, lots of fun to be had on the range.
Last time I took the 30 cals out I put 80 rounds down range, all in military rifles, shoulder was a little sore but so much fun.
I have been shooting a fair bit the last couple years. Mostly I just develop handloads and shoot for accuracy. Often I load up a box of .30-06 or .280 and shoot them off just for fun. I am a member of a local range that is pretty lightly used, especially in winter.
Last week I tried some 5-shot groups at 50 yards, offhand. The results were sobering. It was difficult to hold groups under 6 inches so I need to practice. Mind you, I have only ever once shot offhand at a deer that far; usually I will use a sapling to hold steady or something.
Fox, you will only get flamed if you hunt with .410 slugs, not plink with them. I checked the ballistics charts a few years ago, and I don't recall if it was 2.5 or 3-inch .410 ammo, but the MUZZLE energy of a .410 slug is almost exactly equal to the energy of a 170-grain .30-30 round at 300 yards. For some reason people think they are equivalent to .44 Mag pistol ammo. Nope, not even close.
Mind you, a dead deer trumps ballistic theory every time, lol! I know full well the .38-55 is not a 200-yard moose gun, but my great-grandfather dropped two moose at that distance.
I am going to try something new to me. I just bought a Win 1885 falling-block single-shot in .38-55 and I plan to try her with smokeless and black powder (actually Triple Seven) cast-bullet loads. I think it would be pretty cool to take a deer with that rifle using the tang sight.
Kilo, only equivalent at the muzzle to a pistol, the heavier bullets moving the same speed hold their energy longer, like a larger lead shot pellet is better than the same size in steel but the muzzle energy comparison between the 44 Mag and the 410 is actually kind of crazy, I think the 410 is closer to the 41 Rem Mag but makes the 357 look like a toy round. Either way I was flamed for shooting wood and a bucket to see what it would do and asking if it would be enough, not ideal. A 30-30 at 300 yards would be enough for a deer but not ideal, plus many of the guys with 30-30s have irons and a 300 shot on a pie plate with irons is a tough task.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilo Charlie
Off-hand shooting and rapid off-hand shooting is sobering, you can put 5 shots in a dime at 200 yards off the bench but 5 shots rapidly fired at 50 yards with the same rifle into a pie plate is a whole different animal. If you have a hill to do it on put cardboard inside a tire and roll it down a hill and hit the paper as it goes by, I have not done this yet but I have been told that is the best training for hunting running deer.
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Originally Posted by Species8472
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Originally Posted by welsh
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ROFL. Nice one Fox!
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