B.C. Bans Trophy Hunting Grizzly Bears

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

I have been told that black bears with access to a dump taste like pampers!

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How would anyone know what pampers taste like ???? Just askin'.......?

i've heard the same. don't eat salmon dining bears, everyone has the picture of the majestic river flowing and a brown bear catching it fresh from the stream which is true but they also start eating the dead ones which is where the problem lies. anyone who's fished a river with dead salmon on the bank knows that smell, i wouldn't go near any animal that's been eating that. Grizz that have been eating up in the mountains should be pretty good tasting i would think

i've read that these salmon eating brown bears are called kodiaks and other brown bears that don't dine on salmon are grizzly.

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Originally Posted by parkcity

i've heard the same. don't eat salmon dining bears, everyone has the picture of the majestic river flowing and a brown bear catching it fresh from the stream which is true but they also start eating the dead ones which is where the problem lies. anyone who's fished a river with dead salmon on the bank knows that smell, i wouldn't go near any animal that's been eating that. Grizz that have been eating up in the mountains should be pretty good tasting i would think

i've read that these salmon eating brown bears are called kodiaks and other brown bears that don't dine on salmon are grizzly.

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All bears eat fish...Kodiaks are basicly the larger coastal version of Grizzly. They get larger because of more protein in their diet...

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

How would anyone know what pampers taste like ???? Just askin'.......?

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Ha Ha ,I assume he meant they taste like the contents of said pampers :thumbup:. How he knew what that tastes like I have NO idea

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Originally Posted by MikePal

No rhyme or reason other that it's now politically incorrect...

The inevitable backlash thanks to those idiot Hunters who posted that video a few years back...

https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...hlight=grizzly



http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/08...ef=ca-homepage

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The upside of course is the grizzly population will have the opportunity to expand. If the same thing occurs out in B.C. as happen here in Ontario when the spring black bear hunt was cancelled. The bear - human encounter are likely to escalate as the bear population grows and humans crowd into the bear's habitat. Problem is grizzly can be a tad more aggressive than a black bear. It will probably make for a great market place for bear spray, while at the same time result in a lot of human misery. If you are an environmentalist that doesn't have to deal with such occurrences, it might appear that you won a great victory. Those who have to deal with the aftermath such encounter may see it other wise. JMHO.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

The upside of course is the grizzly population will have the opportunity to expand. If the same thing occurs out in B.C. as happen here in Ontario when the spring black bear hunt was cancelled. The bear - human encounter are likely to escalate as the bear population grows and humans crowd into the bear's habitat. Problem is grizzly can be a tad more aggressive than a black bear. It will probably make for a great market place for bear spray, while at the same time result in a lot of human misery. If you are an environmentalist that doesn't have to deal with such occurrences, it might appear that you won a great victory. Those who have to deal with the aftermath such encounter may see it other wise. JMHO.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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This is personally why I'm gonna sit back and watch as grizzlies or kodiaks tear through human encampments (camps, cottages, small towns) and with increased encounters. Not that I wish for it. THEY ASKED FOR IT. Which means I most likely will have to delay some of my hiking in future BC. Problem is that's where my younger brother, ski medic and forest fire fighter is at. ....

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

The upside of course is the grizzly population will have the opportunity to expand. If the same thing occurs out in B.C. as happen here in Ontario when the spring black bear hunt was cancelled. The bear - human encounter are likely to escalate as the bear population grows and humans crowd into the bear's habitat.

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If these numbers are true ....the 'trophy' hunt barley makes a dent in the population. If this ban only prevents those 80 gizzy's a year from being shot, it won't have any affect on the overall population.

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The government said there are an estimated 15,000 grizzlies in B.C. and 250 are killed by hunters every year.

Of those, and average of 170 are killed by resident hunters while 80 are taken by non-residents.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

If these numbers are true ....the 'trophy' hunt barley makes a dent in the population. If this ban only prevents those 80 gizzy's a year from being shot, it won't have any affect on the overall population.

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Not 80 Mike...250 per year combined between resident and non-resident hunters....and I would bet a lot of them are large MALES. Large AGGRESSIVE Males. Without them removed from the population how many bears will be pushed into new areas looking for territory of their own. Pretty much the same thing that started happening with the black bears here in Ontario.

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Not 80 Mike...250 per year combined between resident and non-resident hunters....a

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But still .. 250 is only 1.6% of the estimated population....negligible affect.

I didn't add the 170 to total number because the article doesn't mention what % of the resident hunters sustenance kills....ie...bear that will still be killed even with the new regulations.

The 80 non-resident ..is strictly trophy hunting....and represents only .5% of the population..

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Originally Posted by MikePal

But still .. 250 is only 1.6% of the estimated population....negligible affect.

I didn't add the 170 to total number because the article doesn't mention what % of the resident hunters sustenance kills....ie...bear that will still be killed even with the new regulations.

The 80 non-resident ..is strictly trophy hunting....and represents only .5% of the population..

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Be it 250 being removed isn't around the number of black bears being taking in the spring hunt before it was cancelled. The number of grizzles in BC coming into conflict with people may take longer to reach a critical tipping point then the black bears in Ontario, but it will happen. Like you said there is not many people that are going to pay 1500 or more to hunt and not take anything home. I also think the changes will also cause a lot of of the resident hunters to stop hunting as well, so few bears would be taken each year. So if there are not many hunters buying tags, what do you do....Increase the number of bears a person can take each year? The greenie weinies heads would to reaching orbit.