Moose in MARKHAM ??

Leave the moose alone and move the people.

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Originally Posted by Dythbringer

This animal has been around since the beginning of the month and obviously has no plans to move. Chasing it with a helicopter isn't practical. This bull moose won't move unless the chopper is close to him (he isn't moving with airplanes taking off and landing) and putting a chopper that close to him with buildings around is dangerous. One cross wind and the chopper goes down.

I have zero problem with putting this animal down if it has to come to that. This is a large, wild animal in an urban environment. Are you comfortable with a person getting injured or killed because you wanted the animal left alone? What if it was someone close to you? I wouldn't want that on my conscience.

The MNRF, who are the experts in Ontario for wildlife management, have determined that this moose needs to be relocated and you are saying they are wrong?




Except moose can be extremely efficient at hiding when they want to be. Having a team on standby for one single moose is an extreme waste of resources.



Yes it does. There is another less expensive option but I suspect you wouldn't be happy with that.

Dyth

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More people are at risk by doing this then leaving it alone. When it crosses the road and someone hits it or causes a fatal accident this will be on them.

So you live in the city and its ok to the kill the moose because it's not supposed to be there. Sounds like a great plan. There is enough wooded area there where it will be fine where it was.

All I was saying is there was other ways to deal with it without sending everyone there to spook it . Let's chase it and see what happens. Sound like something the cityiots would do.

Just leave the damn thing alone it wasn't bugging anyone.





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Originally Posted by fishfood

More people are at risk by doing this then leaving it alone. When it crosses the road and someone hits it or causes a fatal accident this will be on them.

So you live in the city and its ok to the kill the moose because it's not supposed to be there. Sounds like a great plan. There is enough wooded area there where it will be fine where it was.

All I was saying is there was other ways to deal with it without sending everyone there to spook it . Let's chase it and see what happens. Sound like something the cityiots would do.

Just leave the damn thing alone it wasn't bugging anyone.





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It is near a 400 series highway in Toronto. The potential for a multi-vehicle accident if he decides to cross the 404 is very real which puts people's lives in danger if he isn't relocated. This isn't a large deer. This is a 900+ lb bull moose. Large, wild animals do not belong in the city.

I said if it came down to that I don't have an issue with the MNRF having to put him down. Ideally he could figure out that he doesn't belong in an urban setting and move on but he hasn't. So why hasn't he. A very real possibility is he can't figure out how to get out of the GTA. I don't think you appreciate how much room a moose needs to survive.

No, he wasn't bugging anyone but letting him stay where he was isn't an option either. Winter is coming and the GTA isn't known to contain the amount of browse he will need to survive, nor the species of browse. The best situation is to try to move the moose along and let him get back into better surroundings for him and remove the potential for any moose-human interactions.

https://youtu.be/TCanEolI6-0


Who put these people at risk today? I bet if it was left alone it wouldn't be running through the streets.

Leaving it alone would not have put anyone in danger .

Chasing after it and sending a bunch of people to it is the worst thing they could of done. None of them even know how to handle the situation but jump right in . Makes no sense to me ..

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Originally Posted by fishfood

https://youtu.be/TCanEolI6-0


Who put these people at risk today? I bet if it was left alone it wouldn't be running through the streets.

Leaving it alone would not have put anyone in danger .

Chasing after it and sending a bunch of people to it is the worst thing they could of done. None of them even know how to handle the situation but jump right in . Makes no sense to me ..

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It may not have been running through the streets if they left it along but leaving it alone doesn't lessen the potential harm that results from a moose-human interaction. You seem to support a position that if it is left alone nothing bad will happen. It is a nice sentiment but ignores the danger this moose poses to people. This moose's presence in the city means there is a real danger that a moose/vehicle collision may happen at any moment or the moose may attack a person if they unknowingly get too close. That danger isn't one people can or should ignore.

According to this story is isn't the police or MNRF (they are tracking it with a drone) causing the moose to run but the public and the news copters: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...e-airport.html
I think the MNRF and police know what they are doing.

In fact, I would suspect that charging in and chasing the moose is the last thing the MNRF and police would do. They want to tranq and relocate this thing. A calm moose means when they tranq it, it won't run too far as opposed to an animal jacked up on adrenaline.

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Originally Posted by Dythbringer

In fact, I would suspect that charging in and chasing the moose is the last thing the MNRF and police would do. They want to tranq and relocate this thing. A calm moose means when they tranq it, it won't run too far as opposed to an animal jacked up on adrenaline.

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They reported this morning that they called wildlife management the police and mnr to the scene . Why would they have everyone show up . Do you think having all them people there would not scare it off. ?

Why do the police need to be involved to protect the wildlife management?

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Originally Posted by fishfood

They reported this morning that they called wildlife management the police and mnr to the scene . Why would they have everyone show up . Do you think having all them people there would not scare it off. ?

Why do the police need to be involved to protect the wildlife management?

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The police are there for public safety. They actually closed roads to let it cross safely. Neither MNRF or Wildlife Services have authority to close a road.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

They reported this morning that they called wildlife management the police and mnr to the scene . Why would they have everyone show up . Do you think having all them people there would not scare it off. ?

Why do the police need to be involved to protect the wildlife management?

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https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...=elk+king+city
end result when a large animal is left alone out of its element. Relatively rural compared to where the moose is now. Elk was left to roam end result dead on the side of the road along with personal and property damage. Was that a better result?
I am hoping your comments are just to bash the powers that be and not based in rational thought.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

They reported this morning that they called wildlife management the police and mnr to the scene . Why would they have everyone show up . Do you think having all them people there would not scare it off. ?

Why do the police need to be involved to protect the wildlife management?

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Police to deal with the public and the MNRF to actually deal with the moose. People in Toronto would have more experience dealing with police than CO's.

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

The police are there for public safety. They actually closed roads to let it cross safely. Neither MNRF or Wildlife Services have authority to close a road.

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Another good reason.