It's Called Hunting

I don't understand what you mean....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_On7q6gX9jk

That's the kind of B.S. that is being pushed these days.
"100 YD. SHOTS WITH A CROSSBOW " at a stationary target, but a live target , can move during the flight time of that bolt, and this then gives you a wounded animal.
Don't forget that deer have amazing hearing and can /do get away quickly at the sound of a noisy crossbow being fired, the longer the distance the greater chance of a wounded animal.

Flight time is never mentioned or talked about on shows with long range shots.
You have the camera in the shooter, and you have the camera on the animal.
They never talk about the fact that some of this 800 to 1200 yards shots they are taking, the bullet can have flight times of "OVER A MINUTE".

A .223 takes about 0.40 seconds to just get to 300 yards. Assuming the bullet had the same velocity out to 1200 yards the flight time would be 1.20 seconds. Now we all know the farther it goes the slower it travels.
Start shooting heavy calibre rounds like a .50BMG( getting popular) and it's not only starts a little slower, but it has to fly in a much bigger arc. That all makes flight times longer as well.

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

A .223 takes about 0.40 seconds to just get to 300 yards. Assuming the bullet had the same velocity out to 1200 yards the flight time would be 1.20 minutes

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Let me correct you, 1.2 seconds, if it maintains the velocity.

A 50 BMG will travel a mile in just under 3 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Fox

Let me correct you, 1.2 seconds, if it maintains the velocity.

A 50 BMG will travel a mile in just under 3 seconds.

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Original was fix well you typed.

Just think how much an animal can move in three seconds even when not panicking.

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Original was fix well you typed.

Just think how much an animal can move in three seconds even when not panicking.

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How many people are hunting deer at 1 mile?

At 300 yards your 223 is only 0.4 seconds, not much can happen at that range but at 300 yards with a running animal there can be a significant distance.

It pretty much comes down to personal ethics, my plan is for a long range deer rifle but these things are all relative, by long range I do not mean 1200 yards but to those hunting in big bush I will be going for deer out to 8x their normal range.

As the title says in hunting the challenge is to get closer to your game. Target shooting is where you should play with distance.

what he said

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Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter

Most hunters eventually find themselves in a situation where the target animal may be out past what most would consider an ethical range.

During the controlled muzzleloader only hunt I had a great mature 10 point buck out @ 175yards. After putting a lot of time in @ the range and knowing what my Savage was capable of I felt comfortable in taking the shot. The end result was a well placed bullet & a nice buck @ the end of the blood trail.

My point is only you know your limitations & don't be too quick to judge what others are doing unless you know more about them than you do yourself. :0)

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Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter

Most hunters eventually find themselves in a situation where the target animal may be out past what most would consider an ethical range.

During the controlled muzzleloader only hunt I had a great mature 10 point buck out @ 175yards. After putting a lot of time in @ the range and knowing what my Savage was capable of I felt comfortable in taking the shot. The end result was a well placed bullet & a nice buck @ the end of the blood trail.

My point is only you know your limitations & don't be too quick to judge what others are doing unless you know more about them than you do yourself. :0)

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I think the the issue here, as it relates to the article, is that we lobbied our govt for an additional season in which to use primitive weapons. We put forth the argument that the harvest from this additional hunting pressure would be for the most part insignificant due to the inefficiencies of muzzleloaders

Now 2 decades later, we’ve bent and pushed every single limit and parameter related to what constitutes a muzzleloader and we’re making 175 yd shots with smokeless powder, jacketed bullets and variable power scopes.....

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Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter

Most hunters eventually find themselves in a situation where the target animal may be out past what most would consider an ethical range.

During the controlled muzzleloader only hunt I had a great mature 10 point buck out @ 175yards. After putting a lot of time in @ the range and knowing what my Savage was capable of I felt comfortable in taking the shot. The end result was a well placed bullet & a nice buck @ the end of the blood trail.

My point is only you know your limitations & don't be too quick to judge what others are doing unless you know more about them than you do yourself. :0)

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why do we not have a "like" button on here. Most forums have this nowadays get with the times OOD! lol

...anyways "like" the above.