It's Official

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

More provincial tax money flows IN to the City of Toronto than flows OUT. I can't wait for the next shoe to drop when the OMB forces Toronto to raise their mil rate to match the rest of the province. If you think all the whinin' and cryin' was bad now,we ain't seen nothin' yet.

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Wrong, look it up. Please. As I have explained to JBen and others on here , as stated by his beloved Frazer Institute, ( con. think tank), that in 2014 (the last years data available) on line, that Toronto sent out 9 BILLION more money out of the GTA ,to the rest of the province, than they took in. Money to pay for all the stuff in small town Ontario. If Toronto kept all their money , most towns could not afford their hospital, or smaller towns a snow plow or garbage truck. The province of Ontario is subsidized, by Toronto and the GTA, like it or not.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Wrong, look it up. Please. As I have explained to JBen and others on here , as stated by his beloved Frazer Institute, ( con. think tank), that in 2014 (the last years data available) on line, that Toronto sent out 9 BILLION more money out of the GTA ,to the rest of the province, than they took in. Money to pay for all the stuff in small town Ontario. If Toronto kept all their money , most towns could not afford their hospital, or smaller towns a snow plow or garbage truck.

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But it's probably that same Toronto that creates the greatest waste too.

Maybe, no certainly, but why should anyone who does not live there, care? How does it affect life in Chatham? Not your money ,not your circus. Take the money your town receives from the GTA and spend it wisely. Why is the provincial government spending weeks on it? Is there not more important work to do?

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Maybe, no certainly, but why should anyone who does not live there, care? How does it affect life in Chatham? Not your money ,not your circus. Take the money your town receives from the GTA and spend it wisely. Why is the provincial government spending weeks on it? Is there not more important work to do?

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I like the fact that Ford is down in the US supporting our Federal Government. (trade talks)

Fisher: most, including I, would tend to agree that this issue smells like a bit of a vendetta against the council and John Tory. But I would more forcefully agree that he was elected to put a stop to the bullshyte and start getting things done. 47 councillors was ridiculous, imagine trying to get anything done, they voted numerous times on the Scarborough subway and it went back and forth for years. I wish some term limits had also been included. Many councillors supported the change, and many of those who didn’t were likely looking out for themselves, apparently there are quite a few who have been on council for a long time.

I don't see how anyone with a lick of sense could think that having 45 city Councillors is not only going to create confusion, inefficiency and unnecessarily complicate running a city, but it is obviously a huge waste of money meant to buy support by giving out cushy well paying jobs to partisan supporters. There is no doubt that city council will be a smoother working, more efficient system that saves taxpayers money in other ways than just salaries. Good on the new premier for using common sense and sticking to his guns.
So I guess this means that Ford doesn't even have to use the Notwithstanding clause now. That will stop the whining.

Cheers

fishermccann is out:fish:again , just don't answer him and he'll go away!

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Are YOU saving any money in Chatham because the Provincial government is spending 3 weeks on the cost of council in Toronto? Do not the voters/citizens, of Toronto pay for their own city council? What business is it of the people of Chatham how many councillors in Toronto? Does Toronto need to worry about how many , Chatham, Ottawa, et al. have?

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I don’t recall saying anything about Chatham, or the fact I’m saving any money. Fact is, you asserted Fords actions were frivolous.....I merely stated that saving 26 million tax dollars was not frivolous....regardless of who’s dollars they are.... but, troll on !!!!!

When Toronto city councillors, have twice as many constituents as any other level of government, and 10 times more constituents, than regional councillors surrounding the city something is very wrong. It is a Provincial government , they should concentrate on provincial matters, not fords personal problems with the city who rejected him for mayor. How about that nothwithstanding clause, wonder where he is going to use that next?

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Originally Posted by jaycee

fishermccann is out:fish:again , just don't answer him and he'll go away!

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People don't like the tough questions..... If you ask them you are fishing. Why oh why has the use of the notwithstanding clause, not come up? Nothing from mosq. and the usuall suspects.