Dundalk conibear incident

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Originally Posted by Fox

10in jaw size with a dane, mastiff cross, still sounds way too small for much, I bet their head would not even fit.

That is if they are running a 330 but I was under the impression that a beaver set like that needed to be submerged.

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A 330 would fit around a large dogs head and certainly kill it if it got around the neck.

What it was doing on the ground is the question. Likely some idiot redneck who thinks hes doing nature a favour by killing coyotes or stray cats.

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Originally Posted by blasted_saber

A 330 would fit around a large dogs head and certainly kill it if it got around the neck.

What it was doing on the ground is the question. Likely some idiot redneck who thinks hes doing nature a favour by killing coyotes or stray cats.

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I know if it could fit around the head and snap on the neck then the dog would be dead but a dane's head is huge, I do not have one to measure here but trying to figure out how he could get into the trap.

Ya, they are supposed to be submerged for beaver right? I do not think there are too many lynx being trapped there beside the school.

My neighbour had his dog take off and not come back, he found the dog, in a coyote snare, not a legal one that you can release the animal if not a coyote. The dog was lucky, got its leg through with its head, a huge scar on the dog now. This is actually bush I have permission to hunt too, with dogs if I wanted, no idea who put the snares out.

When I did my trappers course and exam, a 330 set up for beaver can be set up on land, i did not have to be submerged. The set up would be done where the beaver comes out of the water. I did that set for my practical and passed.

There are multiple sets in which a 330 may have been set on land, in close proximity to water. A runway set or a broken dam set are examples. In any case, it was most certainly not a licensed and responsible trapper that set this. Any trapper that knows what they are doing would have used a different set type in any populated location.

A 330 is certainly big enough for a dog even as large as a Great Dane to force it's head through. I'd imagine it was investigating a smell, likely a lure or bait left behind by this idiot. I've seen dogs get themselves stuck in some pretty absurd places, an unfortunate tragedy in this case.

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Originally Posted by Fox

I know if it could fit around the head and snap on the neck then the dog would be dead but a dane's head is huge, I do not have one to measure here but trying to figure out how he could get into the trap.

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They are big but to put it into context a regulation size basketball is 9.55 inches in diameter. If a basketball could fit through cleanly I expect a dane could get his head through.

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Originally Posted by Species8472

They are big but to put it into context a regulation size basketball is 9.55 inches in diameter. If a basketball could fit through cleanly I expect a dane could get his head through.

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I guess so.

I hunted at a place where the farm dog was a Rottie Blue Healer cross, the head and neck were larger than a basket ball, the neck was actually larger than its head, could not keep a collar on.

I could picture rabbit or deer dogs being killed left right and center with these things, a beagle in a conibear would be very bad for the beagle, glad we never ran into any.

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Originally Posted by krakadawn

It is my understanding a conibear(likely a 330) is illegal if set on the ground. They are to be in box sets off the ground or under the water. There is no excuse for this.......

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The 330 is not legal for anything on the ground other than beaver. And its not legal for coons.


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Originally Posted by Fox

I know if it could fit around the head and snap on the neck then the dog would be dead but a dane's head is huge, I do not have one to measure here but trying to figure out how he could get into the trap.

Ya, they are supposed to be submerged for beaver right? I do not think there are too many lynx being trapped there beside the school.

My neighbour had his dog take off and not come back, he found the dog, in a coyote snare, not a legal one that you can release the animal if not a coyote. The dog was lucky, got its leg through with its head, a huge scar on the dog now. This is actually bush I have permission to hunt too, with dogs if I wanted, no idea who put the snares out.

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It may not break the neck of a big dog. It would kill if the traps dog hit the animal high on the skull. Too much force. The dog would have brain damage and therefore pass. IMO.


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Regardless of all the theories, assumptions and opinions.... not a good scene at all. Very unfortunate