MNRF cuts.

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Bet you didn't expect the responses that came back at you? You're out of your league fishcan, leave it to the ones who know.

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That's right. The water doesn't get carried by itself.

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Ford said he would find 'efficiencies', that he would not have to cut and slash, as there was lots of wasted money in all departments, or so he said.

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That's exactly what he's doing,too. People who have been living on the provincial gravy train for the last 15 years are about to get a very rude awakening. Sucking from the pig trough days are over.

Who would you say has been living on the non existent, 'gravy train'. ( proven over and over). Teachers , nurses, doctors, water plant operators, or just any member of the P.S. ?

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Who would you say has been living on the non existent, 'gravy train'. ( proven over and over). Teachers , nurses, doctors, water plant operators, or just any member of the P.S. ?

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The whole thing,from bogus "green energy" contracts to corruption in government,itself. It needs a giant enema.

You said , 'people' who have been on the " gravy train' . Who are these 'people', you are talking about ? 'The whole thing', is not very specific, please elaborate.

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You said , 'people' who have been on the " gravy train' . Who are these 'people', you are talking about ? 'The whole thing', is not very specific, please elaborate.

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Sunshine lists. Speak for themselves. Pensions twice as good as the best private sector pensions compare a UAW pension with a government pension And the UAW pensions are likely the best in the private sector
Hours of work that are better than most of the private sector workers
Much greater performance accountability in the private sector. Greater job security generally

There are many fine public servants who serve including many with the MNR and OmAFRA and police and doctors and nurses but it is a gravy train served by middle class working Joes Wages and benefits exceed the private sector in many respects
Some areas of government hinder businesses too. Is that not why Chrysler is leaving Windsor


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As a former worker in the Ministry of Heath and Long Term Care , I can confidently say that our 'performance accountability' , is second to none, including the private sector. The sunshine list due to its age is no longer a true reflection of its intended purpose.

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As a former worker in the Ministry of Heath and Long Term Care , I can confidently say that our 'performance accountability' , is second to none, including the private sector.

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Do the unions not protect some workers who should not be protected I know that happens in the private sector too in union shops

The sunshine lists show Joe public who is on the gravy train

Some deserve the $100000 plus some do not
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You said , 'people' who have been on the " gravy train' . Who are these 'people', you are talking about ? 'The whole thing', is not very specific, please elaborate.

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Let's start with education. The rot in that system is epic. Then,we can move to health systems that suck up money like a vacuum cleaner while barely maintaining the "status quo" and paying "executives" six and seven figure salaries. We could put up a flow chart of all government services and contracts,stand back blindfolded,toss a dart and hit a target. Take your pick.

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You said , 'people' who have been on the " gravy train' . Who are these 'people', you are talking about ? 'The whole thing', is not very specific, please elaborate.

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Give it up, the gravy train has came to a crashing halt and the days of provincial liberal hand-outs is over.