New 27 Nosler Revives the .277

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Originally Posted by oaknut

Parent case makes a big difference in accuracy.

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Is that the reasoning behind the accuracy of the .338 Lapua (.416 Rigby case) ...??

edit add: I read this morning that the US army will be using a .338 Norma Magnum for it's new sniper rifle...

Interesting developments for sure-thanx for posting it.

Like with many things in life,advertising is key to a success-and it is also a dirty business.
I will toot my own horn(or someone else's who pays well-or where there is some new interest-or else)so people will pay attention(maybe not knowing any better-not having chance to learn from wide selection of different sources-or just plain and simply complacent to find their ways).Everything is for sale,and there are always new buyers.

I used to read a lot from gun experts-so to say.Magazines,Internet,Youtube.
Then realized- one pushes something this year,same one will push something else next year.

Either to "support"a product-or to fill monthly quota in the magazine.




Time will tell who wins,who stays standing,who will fade away.

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Originally Posted by gbk

Time will tell who wins,who stays standing,who will fade away.

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True..as good as the .270 is (was) , it fell from grace in 40 yrs..a short time in the longevity of most ammunition.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

True..as good as the .270 is (was) , it fell from grace in 40 yrs..a short time in the longevity of most ammunition.

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The 6.5cm is just a shadow of the 260. What does one do that the other can't?, nothing. The 260 sure didnt dethrone the 270...lol, and what more can the 6.5cm do then a 260? Look at factory hunting rifle offerings in 270, they have hardly fell from grace.

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Originally Posted by Big Jack

He suggested I not dismiss the 458 for that distance as it currently is being achieved.
I intend to test his theory late this year.

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I have to admit Jack, I never considered long range shooting of an ML a possibility until I read of the success you've had. Your threads really changed my opinion to that possibility.

With that new CVA Paramount shooting those .45 280 gr ELRs out past 500 with 100 grs of BH209..it opens up a few doors for guys who want to take up long range shooting.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Look at factory hunting rifle offerings in 270, they have hardly fell from grace.

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OK to use the words of the articles author;

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the .270 couldn’t keep up and has fallen on hard times.

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Your right, like I posted on another thread, that 90gr .270 would make a great Coyote rifle...doesn't matter if there's no meat left :)

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Originally Posted by MikePal

OK to use the words of the articles author;

Your right, like I posted on another thread, that 90gr .270 would make a great Coyote rifle...doesn't matter if there's no meat left :)

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Do you understand marketing and advertising, and believe everything that's written? So many people are easily brainwashed by it...lol. There is absolutely nothing a 6.5cm can do in a hunting rifle that the 270 cant do better. Without marketing and advertising we all know how well the 260rem dethroned the 270win....lmao

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Is that the reasoning behind the accuracy of the .338 Lapua (.416 Rigby case) ...??

edit add: I read this morning that the US army will be using a .338 Norma Magnum for it's new sniper rifle...

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Of that I wouldn't have much of a clue. I have never paid much attention to the real big boomers. I had a Lapua for a while but sold it because it was useless to me.

All my moose fall to an arrow and at 25 yards the Lapua is way too much.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Do you understand marketing and advertising, and believe everything that's written? So many people are easily brainwashed by it...lol. There is absolutely nothing a 6.5cm can do in a hunting rifle that the 270 cant do better. Without marketing and advertising we all know how well the 260rem dethroned the 270win....lmao

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Marketing is how things work, Beta was better than VHS yet it died, it happens all the time.

The 270 is a fine cartridge at range but it kicks too hard for many shooters. The 260 Rem became a commercial cartridge yet the 6.5-06 never caught on, compare the 6.5-06 to the 270 Win, that is the long range 6.5 that they should have made, but the long action really hurts it, you cannot run that cartridge in many actions that companies are using now.

The 35 Whelen is probably the most efficient 30-06 variant yet it is pretty much dead, all marketing or lack there of.

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Originally Posted by Fox

Marketing is how things work, Beta was better than VHS yet it died, it happens all the time.

The 270 is a fine cartridge at range but it kicks too hard for many shooters. The 260 Rem became a commercial cartridge yet the 6.5-06 never caught on, compare the 6.5-06 to the 270 Win, that is the long range 6.5 that they should have made, but the long action really hurts it, you cannot run that cartridge in many actions that companies are using now.

The 35 Whelen is probably the most efficient 30-06 variant yet it is pretty much dead, all marketing or lack there of.

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That's exactly my point, marketing and advertising does not make something great. It can be used to make people believe there buying into something that's better then it actually is. The 6.5cm being a great example, it does nothing better then a 260. I still have a hard time hearing a 270 kicks to hard.