You shut it down so that's fair for you to say that it escalated past your level of acceptance.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawbill
I'm referring to the numerous requests by other members for that particular individual to stop slandering hunters on a hunting forum. That had everything to do with the topic and the resulting aftermath.
With such a high success rate in harvesting bears in the spring you would think they could easily show evidence of sow/ophraning cub violations. I cant find any evidence other then opinions.
The success rate in the spring isn't really that high,I think someone posted,somewhere,that it was around 8%. Cubs being orphaned through hunting would be exceedingly low if it was in the equation,at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
The spring bear hunt shouldn’t never been canceled
... stop slandering hunters on a hunting forum.
I do not want to take sides in this debate -yet the first time i read the Forum rules was when i joined this great Forum(could be greater though...)many years ago.
Thru the bear hunting topic i was prompted to re-read the rules,and was contemplating should i ask how the rules apply to that thread.Especially Rules 2-3 .
I did not do it because i respect everyone's opinion,and does not really bother me if other hunters beat on each other(we are all adults,it takes a man to give,but it also takes a man to receive).
l also do understand the challenges and dilemmas the moderators face-i bet, it is not easy to do the moderators job.
At the other hand i was marveling what will take to shut the topic down(due of violating 2-3).
8% is the estimated population harvest.Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Pretty sure success rate is closer to 30% of the hunters, with spring accounting for 60% of the overall harvest.
Well maybe we will see which number is closer to the truth. There is Mandatory reporting now right?Quote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
Yep better accurate data will be a good thing. It's been science and facts that's allowed us to come this far.
From the MNR:Quote:
Originally Posted by onelessarrow
Ont Bear population estimate: 85,000 to 105,000
Tags sold last year: 25,000
Estimated harvest: 5,000 and 6,000
That gives a hunter success rate of between 20% -25%
In terms of a cull...harvesting 5,000 bears is about 5% of the overal population.
That means the number of cubs that could be detrimentally affected would be negligible.
I chuckle when people discuss culls and spring hunts. If the idea is to remove a certain number of animals to reduce the population then hunting male only bears in the spring does a heck of a lot less than hunting sows in the fall. You are most likely killing "a while family" of bears by shooting a sow in the fall, she is most likely pregnant, not unlike shooting a any female big game animal in the fall in Ontario.