Should the coronavirus vaccine be mandatory

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Originally Posted by MikePal

I love this from that link Impact:



So its' "all about me"...not what is best for society...HaHa,,

Based on this statement:



So they have not proven that it prevents you from spreading the virus, so you will still have to wear a mask and social distance after you have received the vaccine. . So we are no better off than we are now, ergo it doesn't matter if you have the vaccine or not when in public places like a movie theatre.

So how can they enforce a requirement for vaccination if it really doesn't lesson the threat to public safety ? ..it only prevents you from getting sick ?

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Not sure I see the problem, ( do see the logic).

I'm only speaking for myself.
Assuming:
The risk of mild side effects/illness are the same as Covid. It's a wash, little different than being willing to smoke, eat smoked meat etc. At the end of the day its a wash.
The risk of moderate side effects, are the same as Covid. I dont know about anyone else but permanent lung damage......It's a wash, little different than.......
I'd love anyone to show otherwise. So its pick your poison.

The risk of severe side effects. Its gets grey and to each their own. I'm guessing I'd survive Covid, but I'm getting up there, the risk of permanently being dead...My odds of having a "coronary event" are up there. Same thing, Im getting older and my Cholesterol could be better. To me, it's just part of life.

I imagine there are millions of Canadians in the same boat as I. If enough choose to get in line, well we've seriously ramped up the herd immunity engine. << This is what many proponents of herd immunity but are anti vax don't see. Even if I can still transmit the virus, if enough people step up, there are fewer, and fewer, and fewer that will get sick, and then one day we hit that sweet spot ( I forget where it is exactly).

No matter which way to look at it, pick your poison per se.
1 way, or one coloured pill brings us to herd immunity and the day we no longer need or scream for lockdowns and economic ruin. Which is gauranteed to be wide and deep and felt for years. Decades.

Mike re carding. But even there, if enough people get it and herd immunity is acheived much, much faster. Can they not be torn up?
That to me is the one real issue. And I'll be damned if I'm going to let any gov't strip the right to choose whats right for our own bodies ( think women and abortion)

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Same for abortion?

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That would be her choice yes.

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A passionate plea from a doctor at a senate hearing committee.
Give the team a chance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8S...J6qVsG5FWhZp_4

Watched until ...he was using some data from Argentina that he ‘just heard of last night ‘ to help substantiate his claims. Hello! Not even worth a mention.Wow. Do you believe the 98 doctors in the room that say one thing about your treatment ,or the other 2 out of 100?

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Originally Posted by impact

A passionate plea from a doctor at a senate hearing committee.
Give the team a chance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8S...J6qVsG5FWhZp_4

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Thanks for that...he's absolutely right...seems that there has never been any interest in using a known drug from the get -go. (Tin Foil Hat on), does make you wonder why ?

I used to have a tube of Ivermectin kicking around for deworming the horses...who knew I could just squeeze a little of that up my rear exit and I should be good to go to the movies Haha..

Re Invercmetin.

Latin America started using it a lot back in the late spring. Latin America has some of the worst numbers. < This is not a comment one or or the other, no attempt to dissect this or that. Its just "it is what it is"
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

It might be showing promise with treating those that are seriously ill.
Peru Embraces Ivermectin as Key Drug to Fight Coronavirus | Newsmax.com



But does nothing or should say really doesnt seem to do anything about transmission. I listened to that Dr say over and over "you will not get sick". A number of countries in S. America have been gobbling it up since May. So Oh really?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...m-bad-to-worse

If it helps people from dieing, hey why not. I like to think I'm somewhat open minded.
Wont help those losing their homes, nor stop the lockdowns

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Originally Posted by old outdoorsman

You are an ignorant person.
A virus that has a 99% survival rate and they are flogging a vaccine that is 95% 'effective' that will change your DNA/RNA forever.
Like I said - by all means you do what you want to do, and I will do what I want to do.
The vaccine isn't about your health, but you are too ignorant to know that.

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I have never said it should be mandatory, I think that is should be a choice, but the using "Let God decide" is the dumbest thing out there. Let God decide but keep them on a ventilator. Let God decide but cut them out of a car wreck. Let God decide but use CPR to save them.

God does not do any saving, people with brains and training do the saving. Without education and science there would be no saving anyone, it is not God and God does not play any role in any of it.

I will always take first and foremost the opinion of a front line worker who is in the thick of it over that of a desk jockey bureaucrat shuffling numbers like a deck of cards.
The stats are being manipulated in order to serve an agenda. It is more than proven that the vast majority who get covid will shrug it off after a few days of feeling crappy. Nothing new and the same with any seasonal flu and then you have herd immunity. In regards to the more severe cases if we can treat them NOW with a drug until a traditional vaccine is made available and save lives in the process would that not be a logical step to take?

It simply does not serve big Pharma and government agendas.

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Originally Posted by onelessarrow

https://youtu.be/Tq8SXOBy-4w
I wonder when the suppression of facts will take over as the leading cause of covid deaths. It may have already taken the lead actually.
Let's see how the cult leaders spin this one.

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I sent that video 7 pages ago.
You can tell who on here who believes the news as gospel and those that actually use their brains. It's good to question a plea from a frontline top doctor, you have to be pessimistic today, but to dismiss him entirely is just f#$ked in the head.

Believe the 98 Drs or the 2 out of 100? About anything else but the vaccine? Would you Feel the same about having your car fixed? Should I trust the best course of action , for my problem ,from those 98 mechanics or those two guys over there?