Ottawa bound convoy

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Originally Posted by newbiehunter

100% percent agreed on this point.

Despite of all "opinions" how this protest is Nazi's and whoever else. Its very loud, yet peaceful so far. Compared to what it could have turned into.

In general, I think both majority of the protestors and local police is playing it very smart on the de-escalation of potential clashes.

Unfortunately, there will always be bad apples in any large gathering - that's unavoidable, as long as folks understand that single incidents don't represent the majority..

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But it objectively has not been peaceful. There have been incidents of violence.

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Originally Posted by Terrible_E

But it objectively has not been peaceful. There have been incidents of violence.

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Yes. But miniscule compared complete riots.

As I said, statistically any large group of folks will have idiots in it.. as long you understand the fact, you should not bundle in the whole group in it.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Well you probably know by now I am a law and order guy and a snap shot of my family should interest you. My oldest daughter working in Edmonton in health care is not vaccinated, even although she has lost jobs over this and will be losing a good contract in another month.
My second oldest daughter is not vaccinated, her husband is not and neither are my three grandchildren.
My youngest son reluctantly got vaccinated or he would have lost his job with the City of Toronto.
My wife who got covid and nearly died from it and a had a devastating incident because of covid and depression is not vaccinated.

I got vaccinated because I though it was the right thing to do for my fellow countryfolks.

So in my family we do not fight about it, its a individual choice we so far have made and there has been consequences for all involved.

The politicians who have either vocally supported the protesters have made their choices and will reap the reward or punishment in the next election cycle.

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Hopefully government comes to it's senses soon and your daughters contract get's renewed.

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Originally Posted by GloryHole

Hopefully government comes to it's senses soon and your daughters contract get's renewed.

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Thanks GLORY its hard enough these days for our kids to get by with unstable employment, cost of homes and a whole other bunch of problems that were none of their doing.

The side media won't show you.

https://youtu.be/P3M9kiUtnXE

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Originally Posted by Terrible_E

But it objectively has not been peaceful. There have been incidents of violence.

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Is this actually what you believe?

Thousands of people. No litter, spray paint, burning of buildings, looting, stabbings, shootings, toppling of statues, etc. All these things would just be a good day in the average BLM or left-wing 'protest'...which our PM openly admitted to supporting in his pathetic press conference earlier.

Millions of people across the country and throughout the world are behind this cause of Canadians finally taking a stand against tyrannical government overreach.

You are either:

1) pro-freedom for all Canadians
2) pro-tyranny and endless mandates that have been proven be anything but scientific or effective

It's not that difficult.

Some drunk guy urinating in public, someone draping a Canadian flag over a Terry Fox statue, or a paid actor with his face covered and a brand new confederate flag with visible creases who just happens to be photographed by Adam Scotti (Trudeau's personal photographer). This is your big smoking gun used to discredit thousands of peaceful Canadians?

Politicians and journalists are now trying to seize the Gofundme donations. Anyone remember when they tried to stop BLM donations?

Pay attention.

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Originally Posted by newbiehunter

Yes. But miniscule compared complete riots.

As I said, statistically any large group of folks will have idiots in it.. as long you understand the fact, you should not bundle in the whole group in it.

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So a group saying they want the government changed because the government is wrong and the protest group is right but the protest group can't even self police.

You either have an organized front with a clear singular purpose or you're a mob holding a city sector hostage. If you want to be taken seriously you have to take yourself seriously. Clearly there is no issues with racism and assault. I have yet to see a statement from the event organizer condemning the acts of violence and committing to work g with police to keep this "protest" non violent.

You wanna see a non violent protest? Hop into your time machine and dial it back to any year this century before 2018. Head on down to parliament hill on any given April 20th the whole gosh darn parliament property was covered in peaceful people peacefully protesting. They had organizers and Port-a-potties brought it and permits were acquired.

This has been three days of a "protest" with no permit no planning and no supporting infrastructure. Sporadic violence starting at 11:30 Friday morning.

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Originally Posted by Terrible_E

So a group saying they want the government changed because the government is wrong and the protest group is right but the protest group can't even self police.

You either have an organized front with a clear singular purpose or you're a mob holding a city sector hostage. If you want to be taken seriously you have to take yourself seriously. Clearly there is no issues with racism and assault. I have yet to see a statement from the event organizer condemning the acts of violence and committing to work g with police to keep this "protest" non violent.

You wanna see a non violent protest? Hop into your time machine and dial it back to any year this century before 2018. Head on down to parliament hill on any given April 20th the whole gosh darn parliament property was covered in peaceful people peacefully protesting. They had organizers and Port-a-potties brought it and permits were acquired.

This has been three days of a "protest" with no permit no planning and no supporting infrastructure. Sporadic violence starting at 11:30 Friday morning.

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Offcourse, I could also look at and compare to many recent protests :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monu...0%E2%80%932021

More the half are "The toppling occurred during ______ protest" (insert the lefty cause )

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Originally Posted by Bushwhacker

Is this actually what you believe?

Thousands of people. No litter, spray paint, burning of buildings, looting, stabbings, shootings, toppling of statues, etc. All these things would just be a good day in the average BLM or left-wing 'protest'...which our PM openly admitted to supporting in his pathetic press conference earlier.

Millions of people across the country and throughout the world are behind this cause of Canadians finally taking a stand against tyrannical government overreach.

You are either:

1) pro-freedom for all Canadians
2) pro-tyranny and endless mandates that have been proven be anything but scientific or effective

It's not that difficult.

Some drunk guy urinating in public, someone draping a Canadian flag over a Terry Fox statue, or a paid actor with his face covered and a brand new confederate flag with visible creases who just happens to be photographed by Adam Scotti (Trudeau's personal photographer). This is your big smoking gun used to discredit thousands of peaceful Canadians?

Politicians and journalists are now trying to seize the Gofundme donations. Anyone remember when they tried to stop BLM donations?

Pay attention.

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I think it could be argued that the mandates were scientific and were effective. Notice I said were. I think the use of the word “tyranny” is mainly emotionally driven. I don’t think any democratic government purposely tries to hold back its citizens. One must remember this was an unknown virus with unknown consequences. Perceived appropriate measures were taken with the available data. We shouldn’t forget how this all started, or how other countries without mandates or vaccinations fared. It’s also good to remember this was a global event, not just Canada specific. We need so stop playing victims of this situation and accept it as an anomaly. Then get back at it. I’m optimistic that certain wrongs will be righted.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

The side media won't show you.

https://youtu.be/P3M9kiUtnXE

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Alot of good people right there.;)