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I think you guys broke Gilroy.....Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
My take on the whole situation is that a protest is a protest until physical harm, threats of physical harm and or damage to property occur. Once any of the three happen it is terrorism and should be treated as such.
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Terrorist groups... isis and proud boys. Ya sounds about right. Antifa are peaceful protestors. Ya that also sound right.
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Originally Posted by oaknut
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Originally Posted by canadaman30
Sorry lads but I am still awaiting evidence of what Canadaman claimed and I quote "Your aware the head of Toronto's BLM, believes white man should be eliminated."Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Already been cited on post #14. Most media outlets quoted the man. If you missed it or don't choose to believe it,Google is your best friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
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Originally Posted by boddah
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SEATTLE — Some officers with the Seattle Police Department said the recent unrest unfolding in the city are turning into direct attacks on police.
One police spokesperson said the protesters were deliberate in their efforts to trap officers inside the East Precinct building Monday night before setting fires.
New SPD surveillance video from the East Precinct shows rioters setting fires around the precinct, after trying to cement the door shut, while officers are inside.
Police said it’s an example of rioters are taking protests to a dangerous level—targeting police.
“That’s not a protest, that’s not a demonstration that’s a directed attack against the police,” said Sgt. Randy Huserik with the Seattle Police Department. “Last night was, was clearly a coordinated attack against three Seattle Police facilities.”
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As Antifa violence continues to boil over in Seattle — and elected officials continue to treat the anarchy with kid gloves — some community leaders have had enough.
The city's streets and businesses on Wednesday once again fell victim to the so-called anti-fascists — black-clad militants who have often been hailed by the left as heroes even though they regularly attack everyday people and small businesses and anyone else who defies them or gets in their way.
So lets get this straight. Most of you are saying the PBoys ARE a terrorist group? But you think other groups should be on the list as well. Ok, got it.
Most definitely. It seems no one is disagreeing with the decision to categorize the neo-Nazi goofs as terrorists only that they would like other groups added to the list. How positively inclusive of them. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Simple fact is Freedom of Association is protected under the Charter. The left seem to think this is a good idea, it is a terrifying action of the government.
What people don't get is, it is fine to belong to that group, it is fine to speak your mind in group setting, that is all protected. What they are being banned for is definition under Hate Speech under Section 318 an 319 of the Criminal Code. That determines the crime aspect of ban - which is ludicrous IMHO, free speech is without limitations. Incitement to violence, death threats are not hate speech, they are crimes - and should be prosecuted.
What you are seeing is higher level of thought policing actions by an ever increasing state - which is akin to the purges of dissenting free peoples, like done under Stalin, Mao and Hitler. If they are doing this now - it is a matter of time for anyone, who holds a counter view to ruling government/state. Those old enough can see the creep of state censorship in the last 40 yrs.
Show me one instance where the actions of this group has provided a single threat to Canada and the state - IN CANADA. Show me a single proof of crime, terrorism, subversive planning, criminally other then hate speech. No this is like the pastor's who are being fined, like protestors arrested, and are the control measures of the state to take away more of freedoms and rights.
I have only every come across Proud Boys and III%'s (3 percenters), once on Parliament Hill during a protest. They tried to block me entering a grassed area...it didn't go so well for them. Do you know what they were doing there that day - the where protecting oil pipeline supporters (from QC) who were being threatened by Antifa (anti-pipeline).
The state should not be censoring groups like UNLESS the show clear intent of harm to citizens or Government, and we have ways to monitor those activities.
I could care less what they speak about, or say - as always - you have two choices when meeting people whose speech you don't like..1.) engage and debate, 2.) man up and walk away and don't concern yourself. Pretty simple rule that people need to learn, debate or walk away. Anything short of that or any further action then that I.E. fighting, pushing is assault and you should be charged for laying hands on anyone (since we don't have self defence laws that protect your right to true self defence)
Ask yourself this when encountering people you do not associate with - who you have them over for tea, breakfast or lunch, would these try of people be your friends, would you want to hang out with them. All fine if that's the way you feel.
If the answer is NO, not my type - then move and mind your own business.
Remember - I have to respect your right to hold your beliefs- the beliefs themselves command no respect of me or my thoughts, nor I am I obliged to follow your beliefs as a free citizen and person. But, I do respect your right to hold them.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHA - the educated left from single source news encyclopedia...Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
There are Islamic groups on the terrorist list that have not committed crimes in Canada but are named for activities outside of the country. Same with Proud Boys.Quote:
Originally Posted by line052