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Originally Posted by LiveBates

How far back does everyone need to apologize for before we can grow and move on? Asking for a friend......

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Since the beginning of time lol.

People are still blaming the past government for today's mess that happened decades ago lol.

It's easier to just blame someone else .

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"The White Paper on Indian Affairs and Northern Development" was a brilliantly written document which outlined in glaring detail the shortcomings of indigenous relations in Canada. It was written by The Right Honorable Jean Chretien when he was Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development in the Trudeau Cabinet. It was promptly quashed and hidden for decades. It's more accurate,now,than it was then. I'd dearly like to confront Trudeau II with this just to watch him squirm with his politically correct puckered butthole..

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Originally Posted by LiveBates

Just curious, have the indigenous people apologized to each other for when they were killing and raping each other's villages, scalping and and collecting body parts for trophies, cannibalizing and wiping out any other tribes that stood in each other's way? Or is that too far back that we just don't want to believe it happened? The violence and way of life wasn't rainbows and unicorns before European settlement.....how far back does everyone need to apologize for before we can grow and move on? Asking for a friend......

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That wouldn't fit the narrative, so such inconvenient truths are simply ignored.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

It does according to the truth AND reconciliation committee

"In June 2015, the TRC released an Executive Summary of its findings along with 94 "calls to action" regarding reconciliation between Canadians and Indigenous peoples. The Commission officially concluded in December 2015 with the publication of a multi-volume final report that concluded the school system amounted to cultural genocide

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That doesn’t equate to truth either.

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Originally Posted by LiveBates

Just curious, have the indigenous people apologized to each other for when they were killing and raping each other's villages, scalping and and collecting body parts for trophies, cannibalizing and wiping out any other tribes that stood in each other's way? Or is that too far back that we just don't want to believe it happened? The violence and way of life wasn't rainbows and unicorns before European settlement.....how far back does everyone need to apologize for before we can grow and move on? Asking for a friend......

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Thanx for asking this for me Bates, I have brought this up to a few native friends of mine many times over the years but,,,,,,,,, that period of time doesn't count. Nothing compares to when the colonists came and what we did to them.

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No problem Outback. I understand the sorry game to an extent, but why is it just us, over and over and over...sorry....sorry....sorry..... he'll, they still to this day bury woman up to they're shoulders and throw rocks at they're heads til they're dead in some parts of the world....the human race has been violent and evil since day one.....yet every day....we're sooorrrryyy....just getting tired of the same old photo ops apologies....rant over....

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Originally Posted by impact

" The founding prime minister of Canada, John A. Macdonald, and his successor, Alexander Mackenzie, who passed the Indian Act in 1876, both aimed to protect Natives from dishonest whites and to assist them in becoming educated and self-sufficient farmers with a stable, post-nomadic residential livelihood. Macdonald gave them the right to vote. There was a series of revisions to the Indian Act and 11 sequential treaties, and in 1920, school attendance was deemed compulsory for Indigenous children between the ages of seven and 15. These weren’t perfect solutions, and the residential school system did end up causing real harm to many people, but nor were they the malign plans of evil men."

"In 1968, Pierre Trudeau’s government produced a white paper on Indian policy, which denounced the “different status” afforded to First Nations as leading to “a blind alley of deprivation and frustration.” The paper called for the outright integration and the dissolution of the Department of Indian Affairs, for the repeal of the Indian Act, for the existing treaties to be “equitably ended” and for the Crown to divest itself of reserve lands and transfer control to First Nations. Somewhat like the French-Canadians responding to the Durham Report’s advocacy of the assimilation of French-Canadians in 1840, the Natives redoubled their agitation for distinctive status and demanded radical improvements in their living standards and separation from, rather than integration into, the larger society of Canada. Trudeau executed a U-turn and, in the Constitution Act, 1982, the existing treaty rights of the Aboriginal peoples of Canada were “recognized and affirmed.”

"In the words of Alberta conservative political scientist Tom Flanagan, “Canada will be redefined as a multinational state embracing an archipelago of Aboriginal nations that own a third of Canada’s land mass, are immune from federal and provincial taxation, are supported by transfer payments from citizens who do pay taxes, are able to opt out of federal and provincial legislation and engage in ‘nation to nation’ diplomacy with whatever is left of Canada.”

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-7

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"Trudeau executed a U-turn and, in the Constitution Act, 1982, the existing treaty rights of the Aboriginal peoples of Canada were “recognized and affirmed.”

But up until a few supreme court justices had a few words with him, Trudeau was prepared to give the indigenous people nothing.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

The aboriginal community is calling it a genocide....

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What appears to have been the case, from a set of historical volumes which I chance to pick up at a yard sale, was that the indigenous people had an attitude problem when it came to the European colonists work ethic. The indigenous were content to simply survive on hunting and gathering. Whereas the colonists sought to clear the forest, build cabins and towns, till the soil, plain crops, raise livestock and make profits. The indigenous people had the view that the colonist must be crazy to work their backsides off, when nature could provide all that was necessary. How were you going work such people into any national plan, if they didn’t want to work in your interest. The solution was to modify the attitude of the race, by targeting its youth. Isolate them from their indigenous roots and school them in the colonial mind set. It wasn’t a case of wiping the race out, that would have been a physical genocide. The plan was to assimilated the race by indoctrinating the youth, and simply allow the adults to eventually die off. Great plan, however somewhere along the line it got badly mishandled. In the end, there was something of a genocide, an abusive and cultural genocide. of the youth. . . .


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

Genocide was pretty usual in the old day's, I consider the English to have been the worse nation for this, look at the Highland clearances or Irish potato famine, both deliberate attempts to wipe out local populations to steal the land.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

The aboriginal community is calling it a genocide....

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Evidence?
Maybe the genocide was introducing alcohol to natives?