Where hunters should aim in discussing Bill C-21 on gun control

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Since when was this a 'Hunting' forum Gilly...it's hosted by the Ontario OUT of DOORS Community and the forum we hare having this discussion is in the Firearms and Ammo section.

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This site is owned and operated by the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters not the CSSA, CCFR, NSA or one of the gun rights organizations. The Firearms and Ammo forum would therefore logically be focused on hunting activities not sport or target shooting much less on "assault-style" firearms or even bolt-action rifles shooting rounds created specifically to hunt game not found in the province.

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Originally Posted by Terrible_E

A firearm is a tool plain and simple. I'd hunt with my AR-15 if allowed. Everyone is aware that Euegen stoner designed the AR-15 to be a lightweight modern hunting and sporting carbine. That's not the exact quote from his patent but it's close enough.

Calling people Fudds doesn't help and ignoring the problem isn't going to help either. The eventual goal of the liberal party is to completely disarm the population. It's right there in their mission statement. You may be fine but the next generation of hunters will not be if this is allowed to move forward unchecked. Many people see this as a cessation of a hobby that they don't participate in but that isn't where the buck stops. Today they want all the "black" rifles. Next they will want the "high powered military sniper rifles" gone. That's your hunting rig. That is their code word for bolt action rifle with and optic in it. The ostrich defense only works until the lions start to bite your bottom.

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Here,now,don't you dare start making sense. :)Someone may call you a FUDD. :rolleye:BTW,welcome to the forum.:moose:

What's even the point of this ban ?

How does it make it a safer place to live how does it make our streets safer .

Heard of multiple bust recently with grenades and grenade launchers in the past month .

Seriously people what does this ban accually accomplish ?



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Originally Posted by Badenoch

This site is owned and operated by the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters not the CSSA, CCFR, NSA or one of the gun rights organizations. The Firearms and Ammo forum would therefore logically be focused on hunting activities not sport or target shooting much less on "assault-style" firearms or even bolt-action rifles shooting rounds created specifically to hunt game not found in the province.

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But it's an offshoot of the 'Out of Doors' magazine (the title on the Forum home page) so it's not restricted to just angling and fishing.

And the Forum is called 'Firearms and Ammo'...with no restricted list as to what firearms are deemed Hunting specific...or do you suggest we let the Liberals list be used to restrict conversations on sport shooting guns ?

If I put an assault style rifle stock on my rifle does it become super powerful? Essentially that is what is being implied.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

This site is owned and operated by the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters not the CSSA, CCFR, NSA or one of the gun rights organizations. The Firearms and Ammo forum would therefore logically be focused on hunting activities not sport or target shooting much less on "assault-style" firearms or even bolt-action rifles shooting rounds created specifically to hunt game not found in the province.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

This site is owned and operated by the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters not the CSSA, CCFR, NSA or one of the gun rights organizations. The Firearms and Ammo forum would therefore logically be focused on hunting activities not sport or target shooting much less on "assault-style" firearms or even bolt-action rifles shooting rounds created specifically to hunt game not found in the province.

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I used an SKS last year while deer hunting. It is amazing how many Lee Enfield and Mauser rifles have been used for hunting since their creation, you know that they were created as a weapon of war right? Funny enough, the AR-15 was the first civilian gun adopted by a main military in history, so, the AR-15 started out as a sporting arm and the Lee Enfield in most gun cabinets in Canada started out as a military weapon and was used for the destruction of human life.

This is not a gun rights group but it is pretty hard to hunt with a gun when guns are banned.

Are you against target shooting? The 60lb 50 BMG rifles used for long range paper punching has never been used in a shooting in Canada.

The win 1894 was used in a terrorist shooting in Canada though, just food for thought.

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Originally Posted by Fox

The win 1894 was used in a terrorist shooting in Canada though, just food for thought.

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was that the man decades ago who went around rural ontario shooting people in the back from like 100s of yards away in the bush? said he was "hunting" people?

say that documentary on the history channel i believe

It was used by the guy who shot the young soldier in Ottawa near Parliament, the guy also made it into Parliament.

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Originally Posted by Bowjob

was that the man decades ago who went around rural ontario shooting people in the back from like 100s of yards away in the bush? said he was "hunting" people?

say that documentary on the history channel i believe

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Originally Posted by Bowjob

was that the man decades ago who went around rural ontario shooting people in the back from like 100s of yards away in the bush? said he was "hunting" people?

say that documentary on the history channel i believe

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Nope, Oct 22nd 2014, Parliament Hill

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Originally Posted by Fox

Wait, so a semi auto rifle or shotgun has nothing to do with hunting? That is one of the dumbest things I have read, even from you.

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As you can READ from my initial post I mentioned I had a semi auto rifle (see below). I did not mention a shotgun at all. But just so you know I also have a semi auto shotgun. The reference to "non-sporting firearms" like handguns or semi automatic rifles comes from Mikepal,s post on a definition of a FUDD where he names the guns and calls semi automatic rifles tactical rifles.

"I guess if I was in the U.S.A. I could be called that, but fortunately I am in Canada and not to worried about second amendment rights. Now I don't treat owners/users of so called "non sporting" firearm's like handguns or semiautomatic rifles with scorn or contempt as my "hunting rifle" is a semiautomatic. LOL But I must admit I have made the odd reference to weekend warriors and user's of AR 15,s......"