Know Your Rights

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Originally Posted by Fox

Once again you have no idea.

You better believe they can and will arrest you for doing nothing down there, they will shoot you for doing nothing down there.

Do do not have to answer any questions in Canada either, you can also have charges laid on the cops and or sue them.

Maybe you should look into how many cops get off with murder down there before posting videos of guys acting like pricks in Canada getting charged by the cops with no context.

Have you watched the video of the guy running away from the cop in the park when he pulls out his gun and unloads a full clip into his back, maybe you should.

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Barring a handful of examples, the myth that evil, racist cops are hunting down innocent people for sport is absolutely ridiculous. This is the lie that basically started BLM with Michael Brown. If anything, due to the PC overlords controlling every aspect of our lives these days, most officers in Canada are hesitant to draw their weapon. Every time they do they basically have to write an essay as to why. And they know the media and the SIU ('special investigation unit' for our American friend Joe) are breathing down their necks constantly.

There was an example recently in the U.S. of a young man being shot to death at very close range in a hotel hallway, while being told to crawl on his knees towards the cop. The man was in clear distress and the instructions from the officer were very confusing...the video is beyond disturbing. One of the worst examples of blatant incompetence and police brutality I've ever seen. I can agree with you that things like this are bad, and that the officer responsible should be prosecuted fully. I don't remember much national outrage over that however.

There was a similar situation to what happened with George Floyd back in 2016, but the suspect, Tony Timpa, did not receive any media coverage. No national cries of outrage. No monuments. No multi-million dollar settlement to his family. And I believe the case against the cops was dismissed. They pinned him down for 14 minutes.

Fact is, most police shootings are a result of negligence, resistance, or violence on the part of the suspect. The stats indicate that police are much more likely to be the victim in an altercation or routine stop than vice versa. There are hundreds of examples of people shooting at police in broad daylight, driving off and running them over, wrestling with the officer for their gun, etc. But it doesn't fit the narrative and doesn't get any coverage. There are good and bad cops, but if you act appropriately your risk of being harmed is extremely low.

Look what happened recently in Toronto with constable Jeffrey Northrup.

I know a lot of officers, and if you talk to them you would be astounded at their stories.

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Originally Posted by Bushwhacker

Barring a handful of examples, the myth that evil, racist cops are hunting down innocent people for sport is absolutely ridiculous. This is the lie that basically started BLM with Michael Brown. If anything, due to the PC overlords controlling every aspect of our lives these days, most officers in Canada are hesitant to draw their weapon. Every time they do they basically have to write an essay as to why. And they know the media and the SIU ('special investigation unit' for our American friend Joe) are breathing down their necks constantly.

There was an example recently in the U.S. of a young man being shot to death at very close range in a hotel hallway, while being told to crawl on his knees towards the cop. The man was in clear distress and the instructions from the officer were very confusing...the video is beyond disturbing. One of the worst examples of blatant incompetence and police brutality I've ever seen. I can agree with you that things like this are bad, and that the officer responsible should be prosecuted fully. I don't remember much national outrage over that however.

There was a similar situation to what happened with George Floyd back in 2016, but the suspect, Tony Timpa, did not receive any media coverage. No national cries of outrage. No monuments. No multi-million dollar settlement to his family. And I believe the case against the cops was dismissed. They pinned him down for 14 minutes.

Fact is, most police shootings are a result of negligence, resistance, or violence on the part of the suspect. The stats indicate that police are much more likely to be the victim in an altercation or routine stop than vice versa. There are hundreds of examples of people shooting at police in broad daylight, driving off and running them over, wrestling with the officer for their gun, etc. But it doesn't fit the narrative and doesn't get any coverage. There are good and bad cops, but if you act appropriately your risk of being harmed is extremely low.

Look what happened recently in Toronto with constable Jeffrey Northrup.

I know a lot of officers, and if you talk to them you would be astounded at their stories.

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I have a CLOSE friend (like see him every week) that is a cop.

The issue isn't him, or his buddies who are all great people (his perspective is educating the public, not ticketing and jailing people ... very refreshing view). But even he will admit, there's a few cops out there on an absolute power trip ... some even break the law themselves and don't really give a crap, they kind of act like their untouchable. THAT is the problem. None of THOSE FEW COPS should exist. Not a single one.

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Originally Posted by MarkB

I have a CLOSE friend (like see him every week) that is a cop.

The issue isn't him, or his buddies who are all great people (his perspective is educating the public, not ticketing and jailing people ... very refreshing view). But even he will admit, there's a few cops out there on an absolute power trip ... some even break the law themselves and don't really give a crap, they kind of act like their untouchable. THAT is the problem. None of THOSE FEW COPS should exist. Not a single one.

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I agree. The few bad apples spoil it for the bunch, unfortunately. But it's not indicative of a pattern or large 'systemic' problem.

As soon as they took away carding, shootings absolutely surged in Toronto. To fight crime, and to help those in bad areas, we actually need more police not less (even if that's just to educate). And the police need to get their marching orders from leaders with actual spines. Not clown world PC social justice weirdos.

Always keep this in mind - as you give up your rights for the sake of safety who are giving up something precious and will never get them back - you may live in a very safe society but you are nothing but a number with no rights - I would rather live in a dangerous society but be free -

The cops often say that they are here to protect and serve - I don't see that happening - a lot of people don't know this but the police are not required to protect you and as far as serving the big thing they do is serve tickets - I think the entire area of policing needs to be redone so that the citizens can trust cops - and cops protect the rights of citizens - and are educated in the law that they are trying to enforce - and once a cop fails to properly act he should be fired and not work in law enforcement again - the other thing that is bad is the ability of cops to lie to you to a point you can't trust what they are saying - the so called good cops need to stop standing around while a rogue cop is doing something wrong - by doing that they are hurting themselves and whole police force - in reality they are not good cops - Chauvin was kneeling on the guys neck and the other three cops are standing around watching and trying to keep people from filming what was going on -

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Originally Posted by JoePa

Always keep this in mind - as you give up your rights for the sake of safety who are giving up something precious and will never get them back - you may live in a very safe society but you are nothing but a number with no rights - I would rather live in a dangerous society but be free -

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A bit of a balancing act Eh Joe ..you may have to give up some rights to protect other rights.