The Covid Vaccine Side Effects Thread

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Originally Posted by MarkB

There's always three stories. Side A, Side B and the truth. Vaccine-supporters and Anti-Vaxxers ... they'll both go eye deep into their narrative.
The truth is in the middle. Here's where I think the middle is.

- covid was leaked, not sure if it was by accident or on purpose
- covid is bad, it is not "just like the flu", it is worse. I know people who have died from it, and healthy people that have had serious illness from it (including that they still after 6 months cannot smell or taste anything). I know of an anti-vaxx family, husband got covid, died in hospital last week. Wife now regrets not taking vaccine ... father leaves her behind and a 6 year old kid.
- vaccine does reduce the severity of the infection ... based on current Ontario statistics you have 16 times (1600% more chance) of developing severe illness requiring hospitalization if you are unvaccinated.
- vaccine has likely not been tested sufficiently. Speed to market was the key issue here ... both to make $$ (whoever was first, Pfizer/Moderna won), and to try and curb the illness.
- vaccine does not stop you from getting COVID ... anti-vaxxers are incorrectly using statistics to say vaccine doesn't work. It is irrelevant to say ... you see 400 covid infections today are with vaccinated people. The answer to that is, so what?? That's actually supposed to happen. The vaccine only reduces the likelyhood of developing a severe illness to COVID.

My stance on the whole matter is that getting the vaccine should be a choice ... but with that choice comes responsibility.
You equally have to respect one another's choice. It should not matter if the person beside you got the vaccine or not. It is for you to decide.
Your choice carries responsibility ... for example ... the vaccinated should not be punished with a lockdown, if unvaccinated fill the ICUs ... perhaps
then the unvaccinated should be subject to a shutdown, if they are found to be the problematic group ... and a decision like that must be based on
real data, not feelings or speculation.

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Yup can't argue with that summation

Vaccine Adverse Events in Ontario (Sep 12-Sep 18)

- Reporting rate increasing in all age brackets
- 12 more hospitalizations
- 22 more cases of Myocarditis/pericarditis.
- 172 very cryptic Other Severe or Unusual Events (see img for more)

Attachment 42305

Source: https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-...efi-report.pdf

Here is a side effect of them or from them and shows how they don't work.

https://youtu.be/gqVfrKR_tDc

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Originally Posted by fishfood

Here is a side effect of them or from them and shows how they don't work.

https://youtu.be/gqVfrKR_tDc

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Good find

Several athletes have reported serious vaccine effects. The latest:

https://www.tennisworldusa.org/tenni...-problems-now/

Yeah I think there side affects with the Moderna, I notice my hair turning gray.

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Originally Posted by Bushwhacker

Several athletes have reported serious vaccine effects. The latest:

https://www.tennisworldusa.org/tenni...-problems-now/

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

Yeah I think there side affects with the Moderna, I notice my hair turning gray.

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Global has just reported that the Ontario Gov't is not recommending Moderna for young men due to risk of myocarditis. Now we wait until they have to disclose the next side effect etc etc.

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Originally Posted by M_P

Global has just reported that the Ontario Gov't is not recommending Moderna for young men due to risk of myocarditis. Now we wait until they have to disclose the next side effect etc etc.

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Yepp. But they all said it was safe and effective, when it's neither safe nor effective.
Spike proteins are toxins.

Where's the accountability to all those doctors that pushed mixing shots & saying that myocarditis wasn't a concern?
They should all have their licenses stripped for not following their pledged oath, 'do no harm.'
We need doctors who care about patients not vaccine salesmen.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ne...urce=onesignal

Seattle, WA — Jessica Berg Wilson, an "exceptionally healthy and vibrant 37-year-old young mother with no underlying health conditions," passed away from covid vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia. She did not want to get vaccinated.

https://obits.oregonlive.com/us/obit...?pid=200278331

The government knows how evil this mRNA shot is. They want you to play Russian roulette with your life.

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Originally Posted by MarkB

There's always three stories. Side A, Side B and the truth. Vaccine-supporters and Anti-Vaxxers ... they'll both go eye deep into their narrative.
The truth is in the middle. Here's where I think the middle is.

- covid was leaked, not sure if it was by accident or on purpose
- covid is bad, it is not "just like the flu", it is worse. I know people who have died from it, and healthy people that have had serious illness from it (including that they still after 6 months cannot smell or taste anything). I know of an anti-vaxx family, husband got covid, died in hospital last week. Wife now regrets not taking vaccine ... father leaves her behind and a 6 year old kid.
- vaccine does reduce the severity of the infection ... based on current Ontario statistics you have 16 times (1600% more chance) of developing severe illness requiring hospitalization if you are unvaccinated.
- vaccine has likely not been tested sufficiently. Speed to market was the key issue here ... both to make $$ (whoever was first, Pfizer/Moderna won), and to try and curb the illness.
- vaccine does not stop you from getting COVID ... anti-vaxxers are incorrectly using statistics to say vaccine doesn't work. It is irrelevant to say ... you see 400 covid infections today are with vaccinated people. The answer to that is, so what?? That's actually supposed to happen. The vaccine only reduces the likelyhood of developing a severe illness to COVID.

My stance on the whole matter is that getting the vaccine should be a choice ... but with that choice comes responsibility.
You equally have to respect one another's choice. It should not matter if the person beside you got the vaccine or not. It is for you to decide.
Your choice carries responsibility ... for example ... the vaccinated should not be punished with a lockdown, if unvaccinated fill the ICUs ... perhaps
then the unvaccinated should be subject to a shutdown, if they are found to be the problematic group ... and a decision like that must be based on
real data, not feelings or speculation.

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That's about where I am with this.
I do think that the pro-vax side has hurt themselves by putting out questionable information and by pushing for mandatory vaccinations.