Stand on Crown Land

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Originally Posted by fratri

Some rhetorical questions.......
Can I just put a 5 gallon pale with my name on it to claim my spot or does it have to be a tree stand. Or how about I put an a big X on the trees I want to sit up against, do they become my spots too.
Is it first person to claim the spot gets to keep it for how long they want (years/decades) or is it first person to show up that day gets to claim it for the day.

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LOL it depends on who you ask. If its a bunch of local boys who have been hunting a parcel of Crown land for the past 30 years
and you show up as a new guy they will be fast to tell you they have hunted there and expect exclusive use.

Mind you the MNR encouraged this type of possessive behavior with their decades old policies of Crown Permits and leases for hunt camps.

I'd be pissed with the guy that sat in my stand but I can tell you he'd only do it once. I'd remove the stand as soon as possible. He'll be back with an attitude like that.

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Originally Posted by Ahuntr300

Definitely a controversial topic.

He definitely did the right thing to avoid a confrontation, but In my view he should have graciously left, as the other hunter was there first, and let the hunter enjoy his hunt, not sit what sounds close to him, to allegedly pressure him not to use his stand.

Yes it was his stand, but in that case if someone was hell bent on using that spot, or to make a point, they could put up their own stand next to his and no one could say boo. Would that be better?

No one wins by not being respectful and ethical on use of crown land. We need to share and it is first come first serve.

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Thanx Ahuntr300 for the reply -what would YOU do in this case?

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Originally Posted by gbk

Thanx Ahuntr300 for the reply -what would YOU do in this case?

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Thanks GBK.

Well, first I would fully recognize that if I put up a stand, or anything for that matter on public land and I leave it there for an extended period of time that I am not there, It pretty much becomes public property as well. It's the chance you take when you leave your stuff there.

So, if I went there and found someone sitting in MY stand, first I would kick myself for not getting there earlier LOL, then I would wish the hunter luck and go to another spot that I hopefully have. Next time, if I wanted to use that spot, I would get there earlier.

I would certainly not escalate the situation or try to annoy the other hunter by sitting by a tree nearby and ruining his hunt, and mine too. Also risking a "soiled" stand like Gilroy talked about :scream:!

That's what I would do. Cheers!

Use a climber. Unlimited options and 100% portable. Never anyone in it when it's on your back.

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Originally Posted by alfoldivandor

I would sagest to start disassembling the stand with the hunter on it ...
And he get the message to not to use other hunters stand ...
No offence but it is unwritten rule that don't touch use
anything in the wilderness what is not yours
you don't know hows lifeline is it ...

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Disagree. That's what not to do in a situation like that. The guy in the stand could be tougher than you. Would you really do that Alfoldivandor?

Back in the day there were a few duck blinds on Rondeau Bay that were set ablaze, when the builder found a squatter !!

Bahahahahahahhaa idk if this is like a honest answer or not but golly this made me laugh way to hard hahah.

I can just imagine someone taking apart a stand with a guy still on it [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] leave him on the platform tell him you'll be back to get it when he's done hahaha

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I think it would be a lot less complicated if folk's just obeyed the laws which were set up to prevent some of the problems experienced by the OP.

"Unauthorized depositing
27 (1) Except with the written consent of the Minister or an officer authorized by the Minister, no person shall deposit or cause to be deposited any material, substance or thing,

(a) on public lands, whether or not the lands are covered with water or ice; or

(b) on water or ice covering public lands. 2010, c. 16, Sched. 10, s. 4 (2).

Public Lands Act RSO

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There is more to the act than what you quoted:

Occupation for specified purposes
21.1 (1) Subject to subsections (5), (6), (7), (8), (9) and (11) and the regulations, a person is authorized under this section to occupy public lands for the purpose of doing either or both of the following:

1. Erecting or placing on the public lands a building, structure or thing that is of a type or class prescribed by regulation or that meets the specifications prescribed by regulation.

2. Using any building, structure or thing located on the public lands that is of a type or class prescribed by regulation or that meets the specifications prescribed by regulation, whether it was erected or placed on the public lands by the person or by another person.

Ontario Regulation 161/17 pursuant to the Public Lands Act addresses structures on Crown land and Section 12 of the Regulation speaks to hunting stands:

Hunting stands
12. A person is authorized to occupy public lands under section 21.1 of the Act for the purpose of erecting, placing or using a hunting stand only if the following conditions are met:

1. The person erects, places and uses the hunting stand solely for the purposes of hunting.

2. The person does not use the hunting stand for overnight accommodation.

IIRC, the MNR’s expectation was that hunting stands were to be removed when they were no longer “used for hunting” i.e. end of the season.

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Originally Posted by Sam Menard

There is more to the act than what you quoted:

Occupation for specified purposes
21.1 (1) Subject to subsections (5), (6), (7), (8), (9) and (11) and the regulations, a person is authorized under this section to occupy public lands for the purpose of doing either or both of the following:

1. Erecting or placing on the public lands a building, structure or thing that is of a type or class prescribed by regulation or that meets the specifications prescribed by regulation.

2. Using any building, structure or thing located on the public lands that is of a type or class prescribed by regulation or that meets the specifications prescribed by regulation, whether it was erected or placed on the public lands by the person or by another person.

Ontario Regulation 161/17 pursuant to the Public Lands Act addresses structures on Crown land and Section 12 of the Regulation speaks to hunting stands:

Hunting stands
12. A person is authorized to occupy public lands under section 21.1 of the Act for the purpose of erecting, placing or using a hunting stand only if the following conditions are met:

1. The person erects, places and uses the hunting stand solely for the purposes of hunting.

2. The person does not use the hunting stand for overnight accommodation.

IIRC, the MNR’s expectation was that hunting stands were to be removed when they were no longer “used for hunting” i.e. end of the season.

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To your understanding does the 21 day rule apply to a hunting stand?