Debating 101

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Originally Posted by MeghanOOD

We've discussed the slipperiness of Off-Topic. finsfurfeathers is doing a great job and we're grateful to him. You always harsh on the mods Mike, what's up with that?

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Mike's harsh with anyone who doesn't agree with his version of the story. Don't take it personal.

I tried to in one thread simply share a perspective ... posted some supporting information ... apparently I was fear mongering, and didn't understand a single thing about the thread.
I really felt like I was back in elementary school, with the conversation degrading to "whatever" and "that's not what I said" ... "that's ridiculous" ... Just hot air statements that add no
value other than to try and belittle or pi$$ off the other individual (I'm imagining the motive is to simply feed one's ego ... make them feel like they're some kind of king on the hill of a thread in the Off-Topic Section on a Blog in some corner of the internet ... like they should get a big shiny golden star for that!).

So, I think one thing that needs to change is that if someone doesn't agree with a perspective ... so WHAT? Argue your perspective with facts ... not name slandering, and inferring people
are idiots ... I can with 100% certainty say, I was trying to remain unbias, share some data, and perspective ... and two other individuals just went into a child-like state to try and shut me down!
That is where I lose all respect ... and it's no longer a constructive debate.

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Originally Posted by impact

Until OOD come to grips with paid influencers there will be clashes.
One would be naive not to think that they lurk here and on many other forums.

Fortunately, they are easy to pick out of the woods. Hunting instinct you know...lol

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...n-social-media

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impact ... sorry, everything is a conspiracy to you. This is also an issue ... if someone disagrees with your view ... it's like automatic (they are the enemy and a conspirer).
Well, I'm here to tell you you are incorrect about that. There's a band of people in the middle ... who want to know the truth just as much as you, but don't automatically go
to the world is being run by the devil and everyone is out to get you ... we have our own experiences and data, and are simply conveying that with NO OTHER MOTIVE at all!
So, please stop assuming we are all here to get you, and sheep ... you are wrong on certain things ... it's part of learning and growing ... no one in this world has everything right.

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Originally Posted by MeghanOOD

GW11,
If you prefer, we can delete your initial comment so the thread reflects it was started by a Moderator. Is this what you'd like to do, or would you prefer to leave it as is?

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If you delete the first two comments and leave the quoted messages in the first comment by the moderator that would be great, thank you! If not, then leave it as is, I feel quite strongly about consistency of enforcement.

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Originally Posted by GW11

If you delete the first two comments and leave the quoted messages in the first comment by the moderator that would be great, thank you! If not, then leave it as is, I feel quite strongly about consistency of enforcement.

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Sounds good, GW11. Will do.

**Update**
The first post cannot be deleted without deleting the entire thread.

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Originally Posted by MeghanOOD

Sounds good, GW11. Will do.

**Update**
The first post cannot be deleted without deleting the entire thread.

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Just edit it then be an explanation of why it's was set-up in the first place... as a cautionary note :)

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Just edit it then be an explanation of why it's was set-up in the first place... as a cautionary note :)

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GW11,
Would you prefer this?

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Originally Posted by MeghanOOD

GW11,
Would you prefer this?

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Sure, thank you for trying Meghan. I left a suggestion in the OOD feedback forum for a new process going forward as well.

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Originally Posted by MarkB

impact ... sorry, everything is a conspiracy to you. This is also an issue ... if someone disagrees with your view ... it's like automatic (they are the enemy and a conspirer).
Well, I'm here to tell you you are incorrect about that. There's a band of people in the middle ... who want to know the truth just as much as you, but don't automatically go
to the world is being run by the devil and everyone is out to get you ... we have our own experiences and data, and are simply conveying that with NO OTHER MOTIVE at all!
So, please stop assuming we are all here to get you, and sheep ... you are wrong on certain things ... it's part of learning and growing ... no one in this world has everything right.

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Well, I'm here to tell you I really don't care what you think of me......move on with your life.....lol

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Originally Posted by MikePal

I think you better have a word the MOD (FFF) , he's recently decided not to let the threads go off-topic. Discuss Covid, even in context and you'll find your post banished to the 'Covid' area. :)

I fully agree with what you're saying and posted my thoughts earlier on another thread; "Where as, going off-topic usually causes the thread to go down the Rabbit hole and ends up who knows where but everyone has had a good time getting there...including the OP."

But we have a problem with Trolling. That needs to be addressed, it's against the rules, but is rarely enforced. The closure of a thread this morning was due to one poster posting his nonsense..otherwise, the other contributors were having a well-balanced discussion on Capitalism.

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If one disagrees with the echo chamber here they are immediately labeled as trolls or paid influencers. It then descends in to the usual bun fight. None of that is going to change.

Thick skin is mandatory here. Just the way it is. The accusatory tones and name calling does nothing constructive. But most on here see the repetitive nature of the few and should know what they are getting themselves into once they respond to a post.