Banned for sure now.

To me a democratic government is one that respects the democratic process.
That is obviously not happening with the Liberals.
They will not stop until all firearms are banned.
They have the media in their back pocket spreading their lies.
The criminals are the only one that will not be affected by this.

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Originally Posted by Deer Hunter

To me a democratic government is one that respects the democratic process.
That is obviously not happening with the Liberals.
They will not stop until all firearms are banned.
They have the media in their back pocket spreading their lies.
The criminals are the only one that will not be affected by this.

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True on all accounts. Well said sir!

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Originally Posted by Tigboy 304

I know where the money will come from . Justlied will print more, budgets will balance themselves remember he said so. Inflation at a 40yr high what a few extra dollars printed. If he keeps running this country into the ground we will be like 1923 Germany where a trillion marks equaled a US dollar. A wheelbarrow full of marks wouldn't buy a newspaper and while mentioning Germany Justlied is taking a page out of Adolf's book by disarming the public and then he will be totally free to be the dicktatter he dreams of being.

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Really? You actually think that's where we are headed?

Maybe not that extreme but yes our dollar could well plummet, Trudeau is trying hard to shut down big industry as fast as possible.

Banning gun Trudeau is definitely going to ban even more if he is reelected, that's a given, death by a thousands cuts. The Liberals have never been shy of admitting they want to ban all guns. Allan Rock actually stated that.

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Originally Posted by zoli 16ga.

Really? You actually think that's where we are headed?

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

It’s getting to the point where political parties are quite detached from the people. I’d like to see big/key national issues put to a vote for the people to decide. Political parties of all stripes are not to be trusted.

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You mean actually have an true democracy?

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting>
- Gun Nut

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We’re all to blame. For years the government and media has played into the evilness of guns (while mankind is non culpable). This inanimate object is obviously the problem. So the general public believes in it.

Where have all these outdoor recreational shooting/hunting societies been for years? Where is our educational platform to reach the general population?

We are here because we did little to nothing to change the opinion of people. We did not educate them. We do very little to reach out to them. Now we sit here in our private clubs and we stew.

This of course does not pertain to everyone. Enough members on here have reached out to many non hunters to share with them the experience first hand.

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So….have YOU joined CCFR, or CSSA, or NFA, or OFAH ?

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Originally Posted by fishfood

How will thos effect the police guns are they all Canadian made or will they be exempt.

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Of course they will be exempt or are you being obtuse..?
Even now, The FA does not apply to "the state" or it's agents.

It's only to the peons and peasants our firearms laws apply.

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So….have YOU joined CCFR, or CSSA, or NFA, or OFAH ?

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Yup. An OFAH member for over 20 years.

This doesn’t change the fact that we are playing defence. If we are not being shown in a positive light on msm we are not reaching the general population.

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So….have YOU joined CCFR, or CSSA, or NFA, or OFAH ?

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With all due respect; I’m a member of every one of these groups and some for a very long time.
I’m sure some are working behind the scenes on a political level. But this isn’t sufficient anymore.
IMO status quo isn’t working!
They all seem good at preaching the choir about our fight and collecting money from their members to fight these injustices.
I get hundred of emails from these groups explaining to me how hard this fight is and more money is needed to accomplish that so please donate more.
What I don’t see is anyone of these groups reaching out to the general population and explaining the facts and asking for their support.
Why isn’t there any ad’s coming out rebutting the Liberals false claims.
IMO we aren’t getting to the voting public which is where we need to be.
The antis are better organized than we are.
Mind you they get exposure from the Liberal paid media to spread their lies which we don’t.
We need to change how we represent ourselves or we will lose everything.

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Originally Posted by Deer Hunter

With all due respect; I’m a member of every one of these groups and some for a very long time.
I’m sure some are working behind the scenes on a political level. But this isn’t sufficient anymore.
IMO status quo isn’t working!
They all seem good at preaching the choir about our fight and collecting money from their members to fight these injustices.
I get hundred of emails from these groups explaining to me how hard this fight is and more money is needed to accomplish that so please donate more.
What I don’t see is anyone of these groups reaching out to the general population and explaining the facts and asking for their support.
Why isn’t there any ad’s coming out rebutting the Liberals false claims.
IMO we aren’t getting to the voting public which is where we need to be.
The antis are better organized than we are.
Mind you they get exposure from the Liberal paid media to spread their lies which we don’t.
We need to change how we represent ourselves or we will lose everything.

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I must agree. It starts with supporting these groups and I’m glad to see you do - because most gun owners don’t.

Instead of 4-5 smaller groups I wish we had one strong group to be a more effective communicator.