turkeys in Algonquin

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Originally Posted by DanO

This winter will be the big test. If this doesn't wipe them out in Algonquin, nothing will! Supposedly the winters were too harsh for them to establish in Algonquin. We'll see!
Dan O.

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The birds that can keep clear of the wolves seem to be doing alright. There have been far worse winters as far as snow since the birds first showed up in the area. We don't have too much of a crust on our end and the snow is a few inches above the knee. The cold may be a bit much. Its not any worse than ten years ago but the last few winters have been quite warm.

seen one in the Mattawa area last year

I was at a turkey federation dinner last year in Chatham Ontario and the keynote speaker said turkeys are in decline ! Mainly in the u.s.a because of habitat loss. I would think that poaching or taking more than there limit would be the cause.

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

I was at a turkey federation dinner last year in Chatham Ontario and the keynote speaker said turkeys are in decline ! Mainly in the u.s.a because of habitat loss. I would think that poaching or taking more than there limit would be the cause.

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I have a couple of friends in Tennessee. They've told me the turkeys have been disappearing rapidly due to clearcutting. Two mountains begin their place went from fully forested white oak to barren scrub.

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

I was at a turkey federation dinner last year in Chatham Ontario and the keynote speaker said turkeys are in decline ! Mainly in the u.s.a because of habitat loss. I would think that poaching or taking more than there limit would be the cause.

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still surprised in this day and age people point to human predation for declining populations when its clearly evident without habitat populations cannot be maintained much less grown. :(

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

still surprised in this day and age people point to human predation for declining populations when its clearly evident without habitat populations cannot be maintained much less grown. :(

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And it also surprises me to this day how many people take more than there limit.

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Originally Posted by oaknut

I have a couple of friends in Tennessee. They've told me the turkeys have been disappearing rapidly due to clearcutting. Two mountains begin their place went from fully forested white oak to barren scrub.

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Take a look around especially Southwestern Ontario and look at all the Turkeys in open fields with very little forest.

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

Take a look around especially Southwestern Ontario and look at all the Turkeys in open fields with very little forest.

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There is a big difference between agricultural areas and land that is stripped of ALL its trees leaving the soil to erode. Turkeys have food in the fields of southern ontario. With all the oak gone on the mountains I speak of there is no more food for the birds. Another difference would be the small tree lines in southern ontario do provide areas to roost. No trees = easy dinner for coyote, foxes, coins etc..

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Originally Posted by oaknut

There is a big difference between agricultural areas and land that is stripped of ALL its trees leaving the soil to erode. Turkeys have food in the fields of southern ontario. With all the oak gone on the mountains I speak of there is no more food for the birds. Another difference would be the small tree lines in southern ontario do provide areas to roost. No trees = easy dinner for coyote, foxes, coins etc..

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Lots of money from the turkey federation staying in the good ole U.S.A maybe they should put some pressure on these clear cutting forestry companies.

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Originally Posted by oaknut

There is a big difference between agricultural areas and land that is stripped of ALL its trees leaving the soil to erode. Turkeys have food in the fields of southern ontario. With all the oak gone on the mountains I speak of there is no more food for the birds. Another difference would be the small tree lines in southern ontario do provide areas to roost. No trees = easy dinner for coyote, foxes, coins etc..

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Do know how many thousands of different weed seeds and nut tree seeds are in the soil after a clear cut ? The turkeys don't die off they move on to other areas for cover. Do you know what the bag limits are in the U.S.A (3) and in Ontario (2). Did your friends happen to ask any of the companies if they were going to be replanted ?