Hunter orange and back packs

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Originally Posted by TurkeyRookie

So if you're wearing a backpack blocking the visibility, I would think it not be legal.

As suggested, get a cheap vest and wrap it around your pack.

They do sell blaze back packs, but since the one I like is in camo, and I use it during seasons when orange isn't required, the vest option works best.

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You need to have 400 sq in of blaze orange minimum above the waist and visible from all sides. If you have a tiny minimum vest and they cover the back of it with a backpack then if most likely will remove your minimum visible area to under 400 sq in and may also remove the visible from all sides component as well. On the other hand if you wear a full blaze orange full length coat then the backpack would not reduce your minimum visible area to under 400 sq in and the material at your upper shoulders, back of your arms, lower part of your coat would be visible still, therefore not removing the visible from all sides component of the regulations.

If you have a really nice camo backpack that you really like, you can still use it, but depending on your blaze orange garment underneath you may want to either clip some blaze orange on to your pack or get a cover for it.
I actually want to get a frame pack for backpacking and I would rather it be camo then blaze orange. I will be taking this pack and finding some blaze orange material and affixing it to the back of the large pack with safety pins or clips of some sort for added safety.

Good luck in your hunt for a pack, but I understand that blaze orange ones are not the most numerous.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

I had a conversation with our local CO,last year,discussing this very subject. He said that the FWCA only cites caps,vests and/or jackets that must be of proper size and color and visible from all sides. No mention of back packs is made in the Act,therefore,is a non-issue because packs are removable. No charges would be laid.

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Never thought about it this way - I think you're onto something. The only Set Fines are for 'Fail to wear hunter orange while hunting/trapping'.

http://www.ontariocourts.ca/ocj/how-...schedule-17-7/

The regs establish the garmet to be worn, there's no mention of "obstructed" visibility. What is the difference between wearing a camo backpack, or sitting in a camo blind ? As long as you are wearing the appropriate amount of hunter orange. There was some talk about making hunter orange on blinds mandatory, but that hasn't happened yet .
Trimmer 'a response is spot on !!

You have to have at least 400sq in. visible plus an orange hat, if your pack is covering it you're not legal, that's like saying if you have the proper orange on and then put a camo coat over it, it's legal because the coat is removable, by covering your orange it's not visible from all sides....

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Originally Posted by bdog

You have to have at least 400sq in. visible plus an orange hat, if your pack is covering it you're not legal,

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Unless you're a fat guy......

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Unless you're a fat guy......

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Which I am...

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Originally Posted by topher

Which I am...

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GTG then!

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Originally Posted by Blackwolf

I have never agreed with hunter orange. In the province where I live, we do not need hunter orange at all. You say its a safety thing, but 4 times the amount of hunters were shot this year in a province that hosts 2 times that of Alberta, namely Ontario. Good topic though. Safety and why it fails some places and works in others.

Since Alberta prides itself on how much beer we drink, maybe you guys need to drink more beer :)

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if you consider the fact that Ontario has five times the population of Alberta and 40% more area, and probably 3/4 of ontario's population resides on about 1/4 of the area, there is a much greater density of hunters in southern Ontario. Add to that the fact that quite a bit of the area of southern Ontario is considered urban and unhuntable, that density is even higher. Orange makes sense for safety reasons.

I have an old green milsurp bag that is big enough for a knife, lunch, ammo etc. I just picked up a can of blaze orange paint and gave it a shot. Been holding in for many years now.

The law requires a minimum of 400sq. inches of coverage of hunter orange. It does not say how many square inches must be visible at any given angle or at one time. Obviously the more exposure the better. So if wearing a back pack still allows some visibility of hunter orange from any angle then it’s legal.

I agree that hunter orange has now become a necessity with so many trigger happy yahoos out there. Hunter orange doesn’t guarantee that your shooting window is safe if it isn’t seen. Here in lies a complacency that can haunt you if you train yourself to shoot if no hunter orange is visible in your shooting window.

Old school still applies of identifying your target, awareness for possible blind spots existing in the direction of your shot. Just these 2-simple guide lines that dictate when a shot should or should not be taken is worth their weight in gold.
The only thing you can’t really control is an unexpected ricochet. But you can control its lethality range or eliminate it by properly hitting your intended target.


Ed