Asking Permission to HUNT

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Given what you posted, his is, sorry chum.

Not only is the fact that you carry liability insurance a good thing, particularly in Southern ON ( where landowners are fairly concerned with 3rd party liability), but the fact that the OFAH has the forms granting permission available to fill out, shows a bit of consideration.

I've hunted a few places who wouldn't give permission unless you had it....so much for "sucking up to such nonsense".

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Given the "tone" of his post I wold say losing the property had nothing to do with carrying or not carrying insurance:)

Typical mud slinging at the OOD. I'll type as I want, never seen reason for slamming at all. I'm not conflicting the issue, You want it Go for it, but there is also no reason to come back and try to slam my reply, You said your opinion allow others to do so too, with out your Professional responds to debate it. Replying to a thread 5 times only looks like Control problem or Bullying a thread.

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Originally Posted by skeeter1

Given the "tone" of his post I wold say losing the property had nothing to do with carrying or not carrying insurance:)

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on the insurance note - think of it as a sales pitch. if you bring up insurance and liability then all you are doing is putting the idea/possibilty of something going wrong in the landowners mind - bringing it front and center. if it is something they bring up then go ahead and tell them about your insurance etc. all I can say is that it has never been an issue that any farmer has brought up with me.

don't forget that from a farmers perspective hunters are also a bit of a nuisance - one more thing to take them away from thier chores and jobs. for the most part any hint of problems is going to not go in your favour.

I will respectfully disagree with the angle of trying to share properties with other hunters. In my expierience it often does not work out all that great. To me I have come to the conclusion that if someone else is hunting I will try and pay them the respect of leaving them to the place. I am sure there are many people who have made great friends from sharing permission and others who have shared permission and it all works out, I just have expierience that it is far from ideal.

Well Said !

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Originally Posted by GBuck

on the insurance note - think of it as a sales pitch. if you bring up insurance and liability then all you are doing is putting the idea/possibilty of something going wrong in the landowners mind - bringing it front and center. if it is something they bring up then go ahead and tell them about your insurance etc. all I can say is that it has never been an issue that any farmer has brought up with me.

don't forget that from a farmers perspective hunters are also a bit of a nuisance - one more thing to take them away from thier chores and jobs. for the most part any hint of problems is going to not go in your favour.

I will respectfully disagree with the angle of trying to share properties with other hunters. In my expierience it often does not work out all that great. To me I have come to the conclusion that if someone else is hunting I will try and pay them the respect of leaving them to the place. I am sure there are many people who have made great friends from sharing permission and others who have shared permission and it all works out, I just have expierience that it is far from ideal.

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Originally Posted by GBuck

don't forget that from a farmers perspective hunters are also a bit of a nuisance - one more thing to take them away from thier chores and jobs. for the most part any hint of problems is going to not go in your favour.

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Not sure where you're getting that from.

Most properties I've hunted on, not only am I welcomed, but they also appreciate any predator control that happens while I'm there.

Never once have I interrupted or taken the owner away from his tasks, but he has appreciated the coffee I brought him out in the barn while working.

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Originally Posted by Ontario Hunter

Typical mud slinging at the OOD. I'll type as I want, never seen reason for slamming at all. I'm not conflicting the issue, You want it Go for it, but there is also no reason to come back and try to slam my reply, You said your opinion allow others to do so too, with out your Professional responds to debate it. Replying to a thread 5 times only looks like Control problem or Bullying a thread.

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Sorry, but you offered your opinion, then I mine which was different than yours which you apparantly took offence to, something about hunters sucking up to such nonsense. Then a little poke by implying my advice was better than yours in some childish tone. I never said my advice was better than yours, only what I have discovered and what makes sense to me through my experience, which like yours is fairly vast. I do apologize for the comment to BD regarding your post, that was uncalled for, but the negative undertones continue through your posts. Time to time people are going to have differing opinions and even some debate, don't take offence to it.

The past couple weekends I've been helping out my landowner clean up his property a bit. He enjoys the help and company for sure.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Not sure where you're getting that from.

Most properties I've hunted on, not only am I welcomed, but they also appreciate any predator control that happens while I'm there.

Never once have I interrupted or taken the owner away from his tasks, but he has appreciated the coffee I brought him out in the barn while working.

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its a general tip - not directed at what you wrote in particular

just be aware that farmers can be very busy people, don't assume they have nothing better to do than sit around shooting the b.s. with hunters. imagine having 5 hunters come knock on your door/bother you in the barn asking to hunt the turkeys/ducks they see in your field over the course of a week. sometimes they are not busy, it depends on the type of farming and the time of year.

here's a specific tip - turkey season often overlaps with planting time. if you don't get your planting done then you probably aren't going to have a very good harvest. if you want to ask for permission to hunt turkeys and you see them planting or getting ready to do so then don't interrupt them.

Ah...see I usually do my asking in the off season.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Ah...see I usually do my asking in the off season.

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That brings up another great tip, ask early! Dont start banging on doors 2 weeks before the opener, try 2 months........especially if you are in a competitive area.