Ignorance is not always bliss after all.......Quote:
Originally Posted by alfoldivandor
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Ignorance is not always bliss after all.......Quote:
Originally Posted by alfoldivandor
I agree that this is the case, there is no doubt that machinery and vehicle noise spook game. Always there are stories of people smoking and shooting game, driving up on deer in the field, the unknown, the amount of game that will never bee seen as it was spooked prior to the arrival of the person and machine is the proof. On a trip to Alberta I was fortunate to be watching a hillside which held 3 moose, a half dozen elk, a few mules and a handful of scattered white tails, a group of oil workers on atv,s were about a km away(seen from my vantage point) and all the game fled minutes prior to them entering the area where the game were. The mules held, as they will typically do, and I wondered if the guys on the four wheelers thought of how sneaky they were to be able to approach the game..... Having said that I have nothing against atv, however there is no doubt in my mind that they are responsible for decreasing success in hunting, at least on arrival and departure. I am aware, as many of us are, that they are also responsible for in advertantly spooking game for other hunters, often at no fault of the operator. This is true in a half dozen big game hunts I have been involved in where animals were making their way to me or my friends and were spooked by a boat, atv or vehicle.
After baiting for years I soon learned that the bears were just waiting for me to come blasting in with the quad to re-bait a site. They hit it the minute after I left.
I agree Sawbill . The only thing I notice that spooks game when I'm hunting is those dang jets passing over . I wish people would stop flying . Likely spotters on those jets .;)
TD
OK, so hunting with or without an ATV makes no difference. This is the first year I have had an ATV and not only did I shoot the most geese I have ever shot but I also shot 2 deer, 1 moose and a turkey. All using the ATV to get to the site and transport my equipment like decoys, blinds and tree stands., than to drag them out sure was a lot easier. However prior to having the ATV, I have shot multiple other deer, moose, geese, ducks and partridge in a single year, lot more sweat and blood to get in and out.
I go with the advice you "OLD Guy's" any day.:thumbup:
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Originally Posted by 400bigbear
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Originally Posted by sawbill
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Funny that you mentioned that. I knew a real old timer that always hung an old barrel ring from a limb and every time he re-baited a site,he'd whack that thing at least half a dozen times. It was his "dinner bell". WE all thought he was nuts until we noticed that a half hour after,in came the Bears. It didn't work every time,but,we shot some big frickin' Bears over the years.
As far I can see the OP likely meant no harm in his way of asking a question by "making a statement"
Lets say he asks like:
-What everyone thinks ,hunting without an ATV can make a hunter more successful?
Or
-What you guys think, hunting with ATV can be detrimental to your hunting success, hunting experience or does it makes a difference hunting with an ATV.
He would likely get a tons of feedback, pros and cons ,experiences and lots of friendly advices too........
There is no real need to beat him up-at least as far I can see.
No offence to anyone.
As far I am concerned-I have no ATV, yet sometimes(after a successful hunt in the "waaay back")I wish I have one. Otherwise I am perfectly fine to walk miles and miles, walk in 1-2 km (if need be)or drag that deer out with a simple deer cart. It is sometimes hard work with of sweat , but that is just my way.
Yet
To everyone its own.
Hit the nail on the head there i'd say GBK
It certainly did get the debate going though!
sometimes not using a ATV or 4x4 is good. I have gotten very lazy the past few years. My truck has made me very lazy.
Started doing some more hiking this year have to get back into shape not good if my son can hike as far as me.
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