No Extra Tags For 90

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Originally Posted by gunter

I believe if you applied in a group and someone has a tag you can still hunt.

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Please please PLEASE read and understand the regulations before you make general comments such as this one! :scream:

Dear fellow hunters, I have written these words many times before, but I will repeat another thousand times if necessary:
I have hunted every season since 1984 in Ontario and I still read the Hunting Regulations Summary every year to make sure that I understand what I am doing when it comes to applying for tags, being out there with a bow or a rifle or a shotgun during various seasons and in various WMUs.
Of course the "Summary" is not the complete set of rules and there are always question marks, but YOU all need to read the regs as much as possible and try to be CLEAR about what you are doing as well. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Hawkman

Please please PLEASE read and understand the regulations before you make general comments such as this one! :scream:

Dear fellow hunters, I have written these words many times before, but I will repeat another thousand times if necessary:
I have hunted every season since 1984 in Ontario and I still read the Hunting Regulations Summary every year to make sure that I understand what I am doing when it comes to applying for tags, being out there with a bow or a rifle or a shotgun during various seasons and in various WMUs.
Of course the "Summary" is not the complete set of rules and there are always question marks, but YOU all need to read the regs as much as possible and try to be CLEAR about what you are doing as well. :thumbup:

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You should jsut copy and paste your responses...............................you'll be doing it forever:):)

Personally I think its a good thing especially if it only lasts for a season or two. I spend a lot of time in the woods and driving gravel roads scouting and hunting and I found more dead deer this spring then any other year by far. I'm in 92. The turkey numbers were about half of what they were last year and while turkey hunting I wasn't busted by a single deer all season and that never happens,ever. I'm not seeing many deer out in the fields right now at dusk either,even in places where I normally see lots. While I would never claim to be around the whole area affected by the tag cuts I do cover a large area. I found another one yesterday while cutting lanes for a treestand. We had deep ,hard snow for over six weeks in a row and below average temps for that same period last year here. It was a severe winter and we have coyotes to spare. Three gun seasons with additional tags wouldn't do the deer any good this year is my opinion in my area. If the tag cuts will get the deer numbers back to where they were three years ago then I think its a good idea. Sometimes the guys who complain the loudest about tag and limit cuts are the ones complaining the loudest when the cuts aren't made and they don't get any deer,fish or whatever on their outings.

Goose smasher

My only real issue is the timing. The MNR is going to do what they want anyway. I would have liked to have known a couple months back, as this would have changed my applying for a doe tag up north.

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Originally Posted by Goose smasher

Personally I think its a good thing especially if it only lasts for a season or two. I spend a lot of time in the woods and driving gravel roads scouting and hunting and I found more dead deer this spring then any other year by far. I'm in 92. The turkey numbers were about half of what they were last year and while turkey hunting I wasn't busted by a single deer all season and that never happens,ever. I'm not seeing many deer out in the fields right now at dusk either,even in places where I normally see lots. While I would never claim to be around the whole area affected by the tag cuts I do cover a large area. I found another one yesterday while cutting lanes for a treestand. We had deep ,hard snow for over six weeks in a row and below average temps for that same period last year here. It was a severe winter and we have coyotes to spare. Three gun seasons with additional tags wouldn't do the deer any good this year is my opinion in my area. If the tag cuts will get the deer numbers back to where they were three years ago then I think its a good idea. Sometimes the guys who complain the loudest about tag and limit cuts are the ones complaining the loudest when the cuts aren't made and they don't get any deer,fish or whatever on their outings.

Goose smasher

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Its different here in 90b, I tagged out with two big Toms in the first week of the spring hunt (one was pushing 24lbs), and saw plenty of hens and jakes. I also saw deer every time I went out, the one day it was 7 healthy does. I haven't found a single deer killed by the winter in our area either.....My trailcams at the salt licks are showing does with twins as well.....

The reason your not seeing many deer at night right now is because of there recent birthing of fawns....they stay secluded for the first bit and then you will start to see more and more by summers end.....there is still tons of deer in unit 90 and no extra tags at all doesn't make sense to me....

This is what i found on the regulations Party Hunting and it included the control hunt.
The hunter must have a control hunt validation tag for the area.
A person may hunt moose, deer or black bear in a party even
if the person has previously attached his or her game seal to
a moose, deer or black bear. A person may also hunt elk in
a party with some restrictions in addition to the conditions
listed below - see page 53 for more information on Modified
Party Hunting for Elk. The term “Party Hunting” means two
or more persons hunting during an open season for moose,
elk, deer or black bear under all of the following conditions:
• Each person has a valid licence to hunt the big game
species being hunted.
• The total number of moose, elk, deer or black bear killed
by the party does not exceed the total number of game
seals held by the members of the party licensed to hunt
that species.
• The total number of moose, elk, deer or black bear of
a specified sex, age or type killed by the party does not
exceed the total number of game seals validated for that
sex, age, or type that are held by members of the party.
• All members of the party hunt together in the same
Wildlife Management Unit or portion thereof for which
the game seal is valid.
• Each member of the party hunts within five kilometres of
the person who holds the game seal that is valid for the
wildlife being hunted.
• Each member of the party must be able to reliably and
immediately communicate with other members of the
party.
• All members of the party, including the person who
holds the seal that is valid for the wildlife that the party
is hunting, actively participate in the hunt and hunt
co-operatively.
The person who kills the wildlife while hunting in a party
shall immediately notify all other members of the party that
the wildlife has been killed and the game seal holder shall
immediately affix the game seal to the wildlife in the manner
indicated in the instructions accompanying the game seal.
At this point, you and your party members at the kill site must
determine the category of animals that may still be hunted.
You must then make sure your other party members, who
did not come to the kill site, are informed. The hunter in your
party who killed the animal and the hunter who attached the
game seal may continue hunting provided other members of
your party possess valid, unused game seals for the wildlife
being hunted.
If you have questions about party hunting, the best time to
get answers is before the hunt begins. Contact a conservation
officer at the ministry office in the district in which you will
be hunting. A list of ministry offices and phone numbers is
found on page 88.

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Originally Posted by Hawkman

Please please PLEASE read and understand the regulations before you make general comments such as this one! :scream:

Dear fellow hunters, I have written these words many times before, but I will repeat another thousand times if necessary:
I have hunted every season since 1984 in Ontario and I still read the Hunting Regulations Summary every year to make sure that I understand what I am doing when it comes to applying for tags, being out there with a bow or a rifle or a shotgun during various seasons and in various WMUs.
Of course the "Summary" is not the complete set of rules and there are always question marks, but YOU all need to read the regs as much as possible and try to be CLEAR about what you are doing as well. :thumbup:

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This is what i found on the regulations Party Hunting and it included the control hunt.
The hunter must have a control hunt validation tag for the area.
A person may hunt moose, deer or black bear in a party even
if the person has previously attached his or her game seal to
a moose, deer or black bear. A person may also hunt elk in
a party with some restrictions in addition to the conditions
listed below - see page 53 for more information on Modified
Party Hunting for Elk. The term “Party Hunting” means two
or more persons hunting during an open season for moose,
elk, deer or black bear under all of the following conditions:
• Each person has a valid licence to hunt the big game
species being hunted.
• The total number of moose, elk, deer or black bear killed
by the party does not exceed the total number of game
seals held by the members of the party licensed to hunt
that species.
• The total number of moose, elk, deer or black bear of
a specified sex, age or type killed by the party does not
exceed the total number of game seals validated for that
sex, age, or type that are held by members of the party.
• All members of the party hunt together in the same
Wildlife Management Unit or portion thereof for which
the game seal is valid.
• Each member of the party hunts within five kilometres of
the person who holds the game seal that is valid for the
wildlife being hunted.
• Each member of the party must be able to reliably and
immediately communicate with other members of the
party.
• All members of the party, including the person who
holds the seal that is valid for the wildlife that the party
is hunting, actively participate in the hunt and hunt
co-operatively.
The person who kills the wildlife while hunting in a party
shall immediately notify all other members of the party that
the wildlife has been killed and the game seal holder shall
immediately affix the game seal to the wildlife in the manner
indicated in the instructions accompanying the game seal.
At this point, you and your party members at the kill site must
determine the category of animals that may still be hunted.
You must then make sure your other party members, who
did not come to the kill site, are informed. The hunter in your
party who killed the animal and the hunter who attached the
game seal may continue hunting provided other members of
your party possess valid, unused game seals for the wildlife
being hunted.
If you have questions about party hunting, the best time to
get answers is before the hunt begins. Contact a conservation
officer at the ministry office in the district in which you will
be hunting. A list of ministry offices and phone numbers is
found on page 88.

I live and hunt in 92. I have seen more deer this year than I have ever seen before. It would appear the hard winter had zero effect on the population in my area. I had to brake to avoid hitting one this morning. It's not uncommon for me to see 10-20 deer in the fields on my drive home in the morning after working night shift. That being said 1 tag is enough for me.

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Originally Posted by gunter

This is what i found on the regulations Party Hunting and it included the control hunt.
The hunter must have a control hunt validation tag for the area.
A person may hunt moose, deer or black bear in a party even
if the person has previously attached his or her game seal to
a moose, deer or black bear. ... . . . . . .

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THANK YOU.
You have now answered your own question, but I will further clarify it for you at no extra charge. :)

There is a difference between regular party hunting and party hunting during CONTROLLED Hunts.
If you are party hunting during a CONTROLLED HUNT, then EVERY hunter in the group MUST have a CONTROLLED HUNT VALIDATION in order to legally participate in that group hunt.