I respect your views on this but many outdoor hunting shows hunt on ranches and im only sharing the experience as i never done this before that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by dutchhunter
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I respect your views on this but many outdoor hunting shows hunt on ranches and im only sharing the experience as i never done this before that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by dutchhunter
Thanks they do very nice work. I guess you get what you pay for and im ok with that.CheersQuote:
Originally Posted by FishFrenzy
Congrats. Good work on capturing the whole adventure on video and editing it together. Very nicely done.
Really enjoyed the video.
Marc - I kinda share the dismissive view of a few others here about what does/doesnt constitute as "hunting".
But gotta say two things, first that is a beauty of a wall hanger. Second, I find your respectful and levelheaded responses to those negative comments to be impressive. Thanks and welcome to the forums!
Thank you for the warm welcome. I'm certainly not here to start trouble. I respect everyone's opinion I could have lied but that's not me and I said it like it was. I will probably never do this again but it was a great experience.
nice deer for sure. breath-taking! Although I personally wouldn't do it today.... who knows what time will do to me. I envy that deer hanging on your wall and it will awe many people for a long time. You have been extremely honest with the entire adventure and at no time did you try to pawn this off as a fair-chase. it was a bit costly and out of reach for some readers from what I gather from some from the responses.Quote:
Originally Posted by ExpeditionMarc
BUT
I have a good friend down in Illinois right now at a great big unfenced 20,000 acre hunting spot. It's almost $3000 for 4 days of maybe yes maybe no huntin .. this is his 3rd trip there so if he comes home empty then it's cost him over $10,000 to look at an empty spot on the wall. Just because there isn't a high fence does not mean that it's not extensively managed. the sheer vastness of 20,000 acres creates somewhat of a fence in itself.
The thing everyone should keep in mind is - look at the potential if bucks are just allowed to find quality food and of course get some age on them. We here in Ontario have the genetics to have bucks of this caliber but we lack the "will" to "let them walk" Most times it doesn't matter if some guys let them walk when others shoot them the next day!
How fitting is it that this monster buck grew in Pennsylvania! That state has a reputation for lots of deer and little bucks is the norm due to excessive hunting pressure.
Your desire to fill that spot on the wall justified you to make the drive to PA. You could hunt a lifetime here in Ontario under our current management scheme and be lucky to ever see a 160 deer.
He's a magnificent animal and that can't be taken away from him!
Very well said my friend. The work involve for that buck to get that big is quite a bit. Also the rancher tells me he has to have them gone cause if there are to many dominate bucks they kill each other im sure its the same in the wild. I could just imagine if the bucks around here had good food and less pressure,but for some its not about the antlers and that's OK. But for some its always in the back of our heads to get a buck of a lifetime.Quote:
Originally Posted by SK33T3R
It's your dime, but I can't help but question the ethics and fair chase component of this type of hunt. How many deer on this 500 acres? 50, 75 a 100? How many trophy bucks do you see a day? 5 maybe 10. Even the best deer hunters on the best property might only get a chance at a 140 or above deer once or twice in an entire season. I've read numerous stories about these canned hunts. In many of these enclosures the larger the rack the more you have to pay. I am not sure if many of the people on this forum realize but these bucks are raised on deer farms till they are a certain size, herded into trailers and then released onto penned hunt farms. What this gentleman does with his money his money is his choice. But to me there is nothing sporting about this and what about fair chase? These deer don't associate human scent with danger. I'm not trying to be men or disrespectful just simply pointing out certain facts.
Hi. The fact is that you don't see 5 or 10 trophy deer a day. I saw 1 a day few more smaller 130-150 score deer maybe 1-2 a day. He estimates he has just under 100. And he harvests less than 15 a year. They are not released when i hunt. They are roaming inside the 500 acre fence year round. They self populate and has very good genetics in his heard. He takes pride offering these hunts. Yes you pay more the bigger they are but that is at your discretion. Let me also say i walk in his woods and there is no way you can approach any deer. You might see a white flag thats it. Its about a wall hanger I always wanted that's it.(Don't we all want one?) I respect your views and i don't thing you where disrespectful. CheersQuote:
Originally Posted by stilchen67