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I solved that problem this year. Bought a lower grade AYA 16g SxS and shortened the barrels. It is now Cyl/Cyl and points like wand. Light and handy and I don't care if it gets scratched. Strictly my woodcock gun for the crazy covers I hunt. Shots are almost never longer than 25 yds so just the ticket. My "pretty guns" will get used in the more forgiving covers...lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustic
Or you can bust through backwards and learn to shoot over your shoulder ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rustic
You're a flushing dog owner eh......:silly:Quote:
Originally Posted by ninepointer
sxs are nice to carry and to look at, but, other than a bunch of English traditionalists, I've never heard of any serious shooter using a sxs. u/o is a completely different story. personally, I don't hunt anymore with u/o, but rather use a modern semi.
the problem with the later is the safety aspect. nothing beats the ease of a hinge action; if it's open it's safe (something nearly everybody is able to grasp regardless what's going on in the field)
They are hunting guns typically and not built to the same demands of sporting guns. Light to carry, very dynamic in handling. Don't know too many who would consider themselves "English traditionalists"myself included but many upland hunters choose the SxS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waftrudnir
Maybe should have worded it differently. I know quite a good number of serious hunters who shoot SxS, but not one single (sport)shooter who would touch it with a long stick. SxS have their merits; i.e. looks and easy carry, but there are better options when it comes to shooting. I used to lug heavy U/O through the bush (because that were my "tools" at the time), but realized soon that hunting does not only consist of shooting. Now I nearly exclusively, use light semis (Rem and Auto 5 haven't seen any daylight for years).Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
The problem with semis is not the gun, but WHO carries it. So, give me choice of what fellow hunters will carry, it were hinge actions (but I will keep my semi !)
I tried to like the semi but just couldn't. Used a Benelli Ultralight one season and found it just worried me with a dog around me, sold it after 1 season. Now when the dog is around I just break the double and all I have to think about is the dog and or bird he is carrying. Heavy sporting O/U are not the best tool for upland nor is a light double best tool for sporting games. You can play 18 holes of golf with an 8 iron only but there are better options.
I know what you are saying, I would like to get one in every gauge.Quote:
I still own one 12g semi ( SBE2) but for upland only use doubles. My problem is I'm a junkie and have collected too many of them....:ashamed:
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Originally Posted by terrym
Seconded on both points. The break action is safer, especially when you have to bust through thick cover. A consideration when hunting woodcock with a flushing dog. And I will never worry about scratching anything -- partly because I shoot cheap guns, but also partly because if I ever bought a gun I was afraid to use, I'd turn around and sell it.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
Now, somebody will break out the tired old line that safety comes not from the gun but from the guy behind it. True to a point, but the design of the gun can make safe handling more convenient, or less.
You're right, and much as target shooting trends through history have run through virtually all the shotgun actions, I think the O/U has proven itself as the one to stay. It sure seems to offer an edge in a sport where one miss in 100 is the difference between a competitor and just another guy in the squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waftrudnir