Purina law suit

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Originally Posted by krakadawn

Yes Sharon, said tongue in cheek. I won't be changing what I feed and can rationalize why I do. Having said that I welcome any factual data on dog food that may be unacceptable for our canine friends. I thought most people could read through these types of law suits but apparently not...this one included.

All manufacturers produce a variety/levels of food....quality varies within each and everyone. You get what you pay for.
I understand why you have stayed with your choice.

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Exactly. ...........If you remember Purina just finished suing Blue Buffalo over false advertising . It
never ends.

I have toured the Purina Research facilities in St Louis. They have spent millions and millions on this facility . I have never seen a human hospital that keep better records of the effects of the formulas for dog food . no dog was given anything that would harm it . But amount fat content combined with the amount of exercise amount of protein etc . There were 300+ dogs - all house in beautiful kennels .
Each dog was cared for and exercised by a university student . There were trained in the area where the breed excelled eg herding , obedience, agility , tracking. I could not believe the facility .
Since I have visited it the place has apparently tripled in size with arenas for dog activities .

I cannot believe that a company would spend so much money on research and not make a quality product . I am not feeding Purina at this time because my one dog gained so much weight when he was eating it . I cut him down and he acted like he was starving and i could not give him the exercise he needed. ( He needs daily training ).

Most of the hard training dogs on the curcuit eat Purina (Premium Quality) and they look like conditioned athletes and perform like one too.

As with children there are dogs that do better on one food than another . I don't care what you feed your dog ... but when I see him I know by his coat, energy level and stools if his food is right for him.
I do not like this bashing of dog food companies .There have been mistakes in the past and usually the dog food companies pay out for their mistakes

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Originally Posted by Sharon

I assume you are being sarcastic? :) I hope so. I've fed Purina since 1948 and never had a problem. I won't be changing. I'll be interested in hearing about the law suit.

YD:

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Thank you Sharon I appreciate that very much. Once I get the current information on this claim from my friend who is a Purina distributor I will let others know. When Diamond had the recall i stopped feeding it until I found out it wasn't the Diamond dog food line I was feeding. It was still very much of a concern to me because my dogs are family members. I quickly called my supplier who informed what I was feeding was safe. I was ready to completely move away from feeding Diamond products. I forget the amount of money Diamond had to pay out to the owners of these sick family pets but they did .

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

Very sad indeed but these were comments I had made to you some time ago and now your using them on me. It's obvious it stuck with you but it was meant for YOU. Tell me something what do you hope to get out of all this ? Be honest with me .Send me a PM if you feel more comfortable.

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YD, I've stated what would be of value here...good fact based/experiential discussion to provide others with information to make informed choices...one way or the other.

You tell us that you bred and competed in the sled dog world. That's great and those experiences are very valuable to share as most understand the riggers and expectations with these dogs .I see these as a very valuable asset. Deal to your strength

Don't make disparaging comments to another. You don't like his comment, then fine , say so. The word 'parrot' put you way out of line, hence my response.

You can PM me if this still causes you concern. Come out to a trial some day, see what's expected of these dogs, I'll buy you a coffee/beer.

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Originally Posted by Wood Witch

I have toured the Purina Research facilities in St Louis. They have spent millions and millions on this facility . I have never seen a human hospital that keep better records of the effects of the formulas for dog food . no dog was given anything that would harm it . But amount fat content combined with the amount of exercise amount of protein etc . There were 300+ dogs - all house in beautiful kennels .
Each dog was cared for and exercised by a university student . There were trained in the area where the breed excelled eg herding , obedience, agility , tracking. I could not believe the facility .
Since I have visited it the place has apparently tripled in size with arenas for dog activities .

I cannot believe that a company would spend so much money on research and not make a quality product . I am not feeding Purina at this time because my one dog gained so much weight when he was eating it . I cut him down and he acted like he was starving and i could not give him the exercise he needed. ( He needs daily training ).

Most of the hard training dogs on the curcuit eat Purina (Premium Quality) and they look like conditioned athletes and perform like one too.

As with children there are dogs that do better on one food than another . I don't care what you feed your dog ... but when I see him I know by his coat, energy level and stools if his food is right for him.
I do not like this bashing of dog food companies .There have been mistakes in the past and usually the dog food companies pay out for their mistakes

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Yes many of the top dog food companies have incredible sophisticated plants and it is not the intention to poison any animal. Mistakes can happen or ingredients mislabeled or incorrect amount put in to a mix or improperly sanitized. I have seen it happen in the early 1990's a Canadian pet food manufacturer made a mistake on an ingredient that caused dogs to drink more water and slowly changed the dogs coat color from black fur to a burnt orange color over time..

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

Thank you Sharon I appreciate that very much. Once I get the current information on this claim from my friend who is a Purina distributor I will let others know. When Diamond had the recall i stopped feeding it until I found out it wasn't the Diamond dog food line I was feeding. It was still very much of a concern to me because my dogs are family members. I quickly called my supplier who informed what I was feeding was safe. I was ready to completely move away from feeding Diamond products. I forget the amount of money Diamond had to pay out to the owners of these sick family pets but they did .

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The problem with these law suits is that , how do you prove it was the dog food? The lawyer for the plaintiff has to figure out how it was only the dog food that was the dependent variable in the deaths. Almost impossible to prove . He'/ she would have to prove that EVERY other variable was the same for EVERY dog. Good luck.
The defendant's lawyer will of course be able to provide thousands of dog owners who feed Beneful and have had no problems.

All it adds up to is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$for lawyers.

I'm tired with talking about dog food. Our dogs no matter what they get, eat better that thousands/millions? of people in this world.
Good night. :)

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Originally Posted by krakadawn

YD, I've stated what would be of value here...good fact based/experiential discussion to provide others with information to make informed choices...one way or the other.

You tell us that you bred and competed in the sled dog world. That's great and those experiences are very valuable to share as most understand the riggers and expectations with these dogs .I see these as a very valuable asset. Deal to your strength

Don't make disparaging comments to another. You don't like his comment, then fine , say so. The word 'parrot' put you way out of line, hence my response.

You can PM me if this still causes you concern. Come out to a trial some day, see what's expected of these dogs, I'll buy you a coffee/beer.

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I accept ! If you have dates in mind please let me know.

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Originally Posted by Wood Witch

I have toured the Purina Research facilities in St Louis. They have spent millions and millions on this facility . I have never seen a human hospital that keep better records of the effects of the formulas for dog food . no dog was given anything that would harm it . But amount fat content combined with the amount of exercise amount of protein etc . There were 300+ dogs - all house in beautiful kennels .
Each dog was cared for and exercised by a university student . There were trained in the area where the breed excelled eg herding , obedience, agility , tracking. I could not believe the facility .
Since I have visited it the place has apparently tripled in size with arenas for dog activities .

They are certainly one of the leaders in nutritional research as well. Their Soft Tissue research is well recognized within performance dogs. Bottom line was soft tissue injuries increased as the level of protein/fat was reduced. Optimum was a 30/20 ratio with significantly more injuries as the ratio decreased thus paving the way for a conclusion that performance food was appropriate for other levels ..........
I cannot believe that a company would spend so much money on research and not make a quality product . I am not feeding Purina at this time because my one dog gained so much weight when he was eating it . I cut him down and he acted like he was starving and i could not give him the exercise he needed. ( He needs daily training ).

Most of the hard training dogs on the curcuit eat Purina (Premium Quality) and they look like conditioned athletes and perform like one too.

As with children there are dogs that do better on one food than another . I don't care what you feed your dog ... but when I see him I know by his coat, energy level and stools if his food is right for him.
I do not like this bashing of dog food companies .There have been mistakes in the past and usually the dog food companies pay out for their mistakes

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Purina has led the way with nutritional research for awhile. The soft tissue injury study was excellent. Injuries in dogs increased significantly as the 30/20 ratio decreased. This has implications for all dogs.

This seems to be the hubub. Whether it's true or not remains to be seen, although we will most likely never find out:

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Sorry – you are obviously not aware that the FDA found INDUSTRIAL grade Propylene Glycol at the Chinese jerky manufacturing plants that supplied Purina with their killer Waggin Train and Canyon Creek Ranch Jerky treats? Beneful is 1% Propylene Glycol which can be contaminated by lethal Di-Ethylene Glycol or, if it has been made from Jatropha used as biofuel, then it will contain lethal Ricin and Curcin.. the ONLY available test for Ricin is extremely expensive and only available in cases of suspected terrorism.. FDA wants industry to watch for glycerin from Jatropha – Plant popular in biodiesel produces potentially toxic byproducts –

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http://www.fiercepharmamanufacturing...pha/2012-07-10

Latest update from the FDA in regards to jerky treats.

http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/.../ucm434865.htm

Just double checked what I feed. No Propylene Glycol.