Seriously !! who makes up this crap

Interesting one article makes it sound like not much more, then another looks at the annual costs and is talking about $120 more... I personally would be surprised if it is ONLY $120 more and not much more knowing the Liberals so far.

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/26...on-hydro-rates

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Originally Posted by fishy steve

are we really complaining about the government helping out low income families? low income dosent just mean the person sitting at home playing the system on welfare... its our retired people that worked for 40+ years, its our families just starting out where mom and dad are working minimum wages jobs trying to make ends meet... dont get me wrong, i complain about my hydro bill as much as anyone, but id like to see those struggling get a helping hand... after all we are the "middle" class

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I don't mind helping the people that truly need it but adding to my hydro bill in order to subtract from someone else's hydro bill is just plain stupid and another way to mismanage and piss away money. I would prefer they great a break on their taxes if it is truly warranted.

This plan wouldn't cause a backlash against low income folks,at all,would it? These Liberals are right out to lunch.

I guess this is how many feel about this announcement.

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I think I'm going to demote myself to take advantage of this. Especially since the last two bills have been up by 33% anyhow. This is going to get cute when hydro bills are higher than mortgage payments.

Someone turn out the lights on Ontario :)

this to (doing away with the rebate and the drc was predicted a long time ago).

Honestly not sure what some expect.
The Left and Unions go batty if god forbid anyone mention try to save some $$. Hudak tabled changing the pensions to DCP for all new hires and was vilified. If they wont reduce cost

That leaves *cough* revenue tools *cough* to not only
Get rid of the deficit
Pay for the 25billion in Infrastructure they are finally starting to realize is needed
but any more additional cost/spending???
Healthcare???

No idea what is actually going to occur over the next 2-3years but they are showing no signs of giving the working stiffs of Ontario a break for all their mistakes, mismangagemt and vote buying/elections.

12 billion is the deficit...Think about it.....12billion short each and every year
And Funny no-one talks about the 325billion in debt

Sooner or later rates will go up.
and there are dark clouds on the horizon.

a point to ponder, not completely on topic...

so this is something somebody mentioned to me the other day, and i do agrea with him and i am somewhat guilty of this myself... everyone likes to complain about hydro bills, yes some are complety unreasonable, but when you consider what the average person pays for other utilities such as cell phones, satelite tv, internet etc generally exceed what they pay in hydro, and these arent a necessity (sp), all three of which we are also getting the short end of the stick price wise compared to other countries... im paying $50/month just to have a landline in my house because i cant get cell service, and i need a long distance package, as my inlaws that live 20 minutes away from me are long distance, but north bay which is 45 minutes away from me is not...

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I know farmers who have done the same thing. Figuring in the cost of diesel fuel which they have delivered twice a month,they figure they're still lots of money ahead. I'm not technical enough to know the details of their system. I also have friends in Red Lake that power their entire operation by diesel generator and live completely off the grid. They've both thumbed their noses at Ontario Hydro for a long time,now,so it appears there's great merit to this approach.

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So we come up with all these green energy initiatives to replace fossil fuel generated electricity only too have people running out and buying diesel generators. 300,000 manufacturing jobs have left the province and the few that are left are struggling too find affordable hydro. The McGuinty/Wynne green energy disaster has left us in a financial and social catastrophe that our grandchildrens children will be paying for.

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Originally Posted by warpipe

So we come up with all these green energy initiatives to replace fossil fuel generated electricity only too have people running out and buying diesel generators. 300,000 manufacturing jobs have left the province and the few that are left are struggling too find affordable hydro. The McGuinty/Wynne green energy disaster has left us in a financial and social catastrophe that our grandchildrens children will be paying for.

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I wouldn't be surprised,in the least,that very soon, Ontario Liberals enact legislation under their "green" energy program outlawing the use of all fossil fuel generating systems forcing everyone onto the grid. Isn't socialist/leftist/communist ideology a wonderful thing?

I watched an educational program on TV the other night that was all about the GEA and what wind farms are doing to Rural Ontario. So it's not just the cost of Hydro, but property values getting gutted….And what do farmers need in order to get credit from banks in order to replace, buy, equipment? What exactly is their credit based on?

The sheer ignorance/disdain of MCguinty, Wynne and green champions to them, and other stuff and mounting health problems from Turbines being erected within 550 meters of homes and residents having no say, not even compensation.

At least when the Feds take land for airports, roads, more, its expropriated.
So just who is dictator like and who isn't?

And more. Like Buzz Hargove and his involvement. Like Samsung (and other green companies) and millions and billions they are raking in.

Yep welcome to state and union run Ontario, and they are driving it into the ground.