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I going to try and keep this polite. When a bank robber shoots a policeman responding to the crime, is he killing the enemy?Quote:
Originally Posted by JBen
And are you saying this criminal trash and our military are the same?
This killer is as much Canadian as Osama was.
So nice to see all the psychologists on this forum trying to explain how the mindset of a 15 year old who was indoctrinated by his radicalized father is akin to a fully hardened ISIS terrorist.
The kid, and yes he is one, was in a firefight with who was described to him as the enemy. He killed someone in that firefight and was then captured as a POW. He has rights under the Geneva convention as a POW, especially as it applies to child soldiers.
Clearly the problem of child soldiers is no longer an "African" issue, if I can even call it that because at the end of WW2 most of the frontline fighters for Germany were no more than 13 or 14 years of age; should we have incarcerated them after the war? Better yet, send them back to Germany instead of offering them a chance at living a life that they would never have a chance to in the country they were in during the war?
So the family dislikes Canada; how many of us on this forum dislike what Canada has become and come in here ranting and raving against things that don't sit well with us? If they haven't attempted to blow up anything, then their actions, words, and rants are no more different than the ones posted on here for the world to see.
The Canadian Forces mandate is one to enforce the missions prescribed by the sitting politicians at the end of the day; the Conservatives knew that back in 2002 Canada signed on to an international treaty aimed at rehabilitating child soldiers. If they wanted this overturned, there is absolutely no reason they couldn't have removed the country from that policy. They didn't, because they know that the issue of child soldiers isn't one that can be handled lightly and that the ramifications surrounding this issue are global in scope.
This will always be a contentious issue, and not one that can be solved nor will there ever be a plateau by which to measure each case as they are all different.
Agree 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by gooseman
At 15 years of age and being born in Canada he was exposed to the same values and education as other 15 yr olds in school and the community. It is truly bizzare that an Al Quaida terrorist/killer is actually considered a victim. My guess is the wife of the US Army Medic he killed would disagree though, never mind the families of the thousands who perished in the 9/11 attacks. Yep, Harper is a monster and Bin Laden and his followers are just victims and misunderstood.
Unless his parents took him out of classes in protest of the schools teaching curriculum that does not reflect the values of their family... :ninja: :tongue: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
Are you saying the Khadr family is Homophobic........:silly: Wait a minute, didn't the mother rant about that also when interviewed? This little tidbit might enlighten some on the Khadr family:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugger
http://www.cp24.com/news/a-quick-ske...amily-1.977121
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Originally Posted by Angus
Thats quite the leap Angus bravo, perhaps maybe some lessons in life, forum rules, expressing of thoughts/opinions are in order for you.
No what I’m saying is
if during war A throws a granade and kills B or if B throws a grenade and kills A.
Do you see any difference?
And please don’t be naive and think our troops don’t/haven’t done same. How many innocents have our bombs killed. WHy aren’t hundreds of our guys being charged as terrorist and acts of terrorism.
Perhaps you might care to explain how throwing a grenade at an enemy combatant is an act of terrorism
Hey I may not know all the facts but I know enough to say...we would be better off with this guy in jail.... No sympathy from me...
one other thought on this.
Im sure if US troops “invaded" Canada where we would be ungunned, out manned, out tanked, out everything.
Would we/you Angus line up in battle formation and have it…..Or would we become “terrorist”, guerilla’s, not unlike Omar in his actions.
Terrym, nowhere did I state that Harper was or is a monster and that Bin Laden is just a victim and misunderstood.Quote:
Originally Posted by terrym
There is a massive difference between a grown man joining Al Qaeda vs a 15 year old who is forced to by his parents.
Canada, the USA, and other countries hold themselves to a higher standard; we always have, and examples such as this is the reason why.
And for those of you who think that our own military past is all glowing, I'm sure you'll recall the Somalia Affair. Thankfully we have higher standards now and greater safeguards to prevent things such as this from happening again.
Of course it's sad when people die in combat, and of course there is going to be ill will towards whomever killed a loved one; that's a natural reaction. But if we followed that natural reaction of an eye for an eye then where would we be as a society? Of course, if we're at war, it's different, but even the war waged against Al Qaida and now ISIS is completely unlike any warfare that has ever occurred in the past.
Regardless of how all of this plays out, there is no doubt that Khadr was a kid when all of this went down. You can't compare the mind of a 15 year old to that of a man in his late 20s who, by the way, is having no contact with his family whatsoever.