Confederate Battle Flag:Hate or History

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Originally Posted by Roper

The Confederate flag existed and had a strong southern connection before the civil war. The south did not want to join the union and fought to retain their unique southern identity. The flag gained recognition and connection to slavery following the war.
The Confederate flag has a much deeper meaning in the southern states than we northeners understand.
If white trash wacko was wearing a Happy Face patch on his jacket - would be ban Happy Face logos?
You can't let a psycopaths actions alter behavior of normal society.
Racism is in a persons head, not on a piece of cloth.
That flag is not going anywhere. For starters - its unconstitutional.

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Thanks for that roper x2 on that

All this talk of the confederate battle flag just makes me want to listen to Freebird

I was thinking Tom Petty's " Rebels"

I was thinking more of Neil Young's "Southern Man".

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...s-over/396482/

A long read, but it tells a lot about where the flag came from and why.



The Confederacy was formed to preserve the subjugation of the black race as slaves for economic purposes.

The Confederate Battle Flag was a symbol and rallying cry for this.

If the Confederate Battle Flag is not then considered a racist symbol, then I do not understand what sort of weird logic might be going on in your head.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

This flag that is in so much dispute , was originally the "Battle Flag of The Army of Tennessee " and then adopted as the Confederacy Flag.

Army of Tennessee
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...l_Flag.svg.png Battle flag
Active	November 1862 – April 1865
Country	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...865%29.svg.png Confederate States of America
Branch	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...merica.svg.png Confederate States Army
Role	Largest Confederate field army in Western Theater
Engagements	American Civil War
Commanders
Notable commanders	Albert Sidney Johnston Braxton Bragg Joseph E. Johnston

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Just to clarify, that flag was never adopted as the national flag of the CSA.

The CSA had three national flags during their brief history.

1. The Stars and Bars
2. The Stainless Banner
3. The Blood Stained Banner

In an official capacity, the "Confederate Flag", was only ever official in the following cases:

Square version
Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia.

Rectangular version
Battle Flag of the Army of Tennessee
Second Confederate Navy Jack.

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Originally Posted by justinmch

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...s-over/396482/

A long read, but it tells a lot about where the flag came from and why.

The Confederacy was formed to preserve the subjugation of the black race as slaves for economic purposes.

The Confederate Battle Flag was a symbol and rallying cry for this.

If the Confederate Battle Flag is not then considered a racist symbol, then I do not understand what sort of weird logic might be going on in your head.

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Bingo!

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Originally Posted by Roper

The Confederate flag existed and had a strong southern connection before the civil war. The south did not want to join the union and fought to retain their unique southern identity. The flag gained recognition and connection to slavery following the war.
The Confederate flag has a much deeper meaning in the southern states than we northeners understand.
If white trash wacko was wearing a Happy Face patch on his jacket - would be ban Happy Face logos?
You can't let a psycopaths actions alter behavior of normal society.
Racism is in a persons head, not on a piece of cloth.
That flag is not going anywhere. For starters - its unconstitutional.

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So your ok with someone flying the Nazi flag or swastika, as until hitler , it was an ornament on many things for centuries. Now it has a much more sinister meaning, much like the rebel flag. In Pefferlaw a few years ago they made someone take down their confederate flag, but it was because they also had a noose on the same flagpole.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

So your ok with someone flying the Nazi flag or swastika, as until hitler , it was an ornament on many things for centuries. Now it has a much more sinister meaning, much like the rebel flag.

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I don't see anyone being "OK" with anything,but,when does freedom of speech and expression come into play? I recognize that Americans have the First Amendment,but,here in Canada,we have no such right.

When it offends a whole group of people. On purpose!