Anyone from port hope

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

I have a question for you. You live on the edge of town , in a residential community , with many houses ,have kids who play in the back yard, with no fences. Would you want people hunting a field 300 yards from your back door, just asking. Sometimes you need to look at things from a non hunter point of view.

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Originally Posted by Cintax

Orillia is like that, no sling shots, bows, crossbows, air guns, or regular firearms. Complete nonsense.
I have a hill in my yard that works just fine as a backstop. I put the target block there and fire away with the bow or pellet rifle anyways. All cedars and trees so no one can really see in to say anything, not that they would.

I still don't see where this by-law is needed. Have their been any incidents?

The Port Hope municipality is quite large so this by-law will have a pretty big effect on people. What about land owners taking care of pests?

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Welcome to my world. Had a nosey neighbour move in to the neighbourhood a few years ago and since than uses every bylaw in the book to piss off the neighbours. Don't know why someone would move into a community to impose their own wishes as opposed to adapting to the local customs

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

I have a question for you. You live on the edge of town , in a residential community , with many houses ,have kids who play in the back yard, with no fences. Would you want people hunting a field 300 yards from your back door, just asking. Sometimes you need to look at things from a non hunter point of view.

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The Municipality of Port Hope is quite large. It's borders are Chalice Line on the North, Highway 28 on the East, Lake Ontario on the South and East Townline Road on the West. The majority of that area is rural.

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

Welcome to my world. Had a nosey neighbour move in to the neighbourhood a few years ago and since than uses every bylaw in the book to piss off the neighbours. Don't know why someone would move into a community to impose their own wishes as opposed to adapting to the local customs

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Because some people are just no fun at all. It's like the people who buy next to a gun club and then complain about noise.

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Originally Posted by Cintax

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Because some people are just no fun at all. It's like the people who buy next to a gun club and then complain about noise.

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Yup got them too however its the train. Last meeting noise complaints was filed by the house along the rail line. Had to ask them when purchasing their house and looking out the bedroom window did the thought what's them long lines of steel rails used for?

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

Yup got them too however its the train. Last meeting noise complaints was filed by the house along the rail line. Had to ask them when purchasing their house and looking out the bedroom window did the thought what's them long lines of steel rails used for?

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Ridiculous. Maybe they thought that the city would move the tracks. Man, some peoples kids.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

I have a question for you. You live on the edge of town , in a residential community , with many houses ,have kids who play in the back yard, with no fences. Would you want people hunting a field 300 yards from your back door, just asking. Sometimes you need to look at things from a non hunter point of view.

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This is not an issue....there are laws that already cover this.

A bylaw is for nothing more than noise...

Non hunters need to be more educated, not hunters being more regulated.

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Originally Posted by brent

This is not an issue....there are laws that already cover this.

A bylaw is for nothing more than noise...

Non hunters need to be more educated, not hunters being more regulated.

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This was my thought exactly when I read the post ... if a hunter is raining down pellets on the subdivision, this is already an offence legally, but if the complaint is about the shooting when the shooting is done in a safe manner, then it becomes a noise by-law. There are way too many redundant laws that are made solely to prevent an existing law from being broken, this leads to multiple charges laid to a person who did one wrong thing where one law would have covered it ... paperwork to confuse the public and justify jobs of lawmakers.

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

Yup got them too however its the train. Last meeting noise complaints was filed by the house along the rail line. Had to ask them when purchasing their house and looking out the bedroom window did the thought what's them long lines of steel rails used for?

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They already do that hence new sound barriers put up along the 401 when new houses go up in an area, or sound proof dirt berms for houses placed along railway tracks. Some airports are forced to use only certain runways past midnight. By the way I was not agreeing with the port hope amendments only posting a different point of view, the devils advocate.

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

Welcome to my world. Had a nosey neighbour move in to the neighbourhood a few years ago and since than uses every bylaw in the book to piss off the neighbours. Don't know why someone would move into a community to impose their own wishes as opposed to adapting to the local customs

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Sounds to me that you want to be free to break the law instead of following the laws already on the books and in place. What is wrong with someone wanting others living around them to be law abiding? I notice you said local customs not local laws. Is it customary for people in your community to break the law? If so you have more problems than nosey neighbours.

There seems to be a persistent misconception on this board about the restrictive use of Firearm bylaws and the Township no hunting (noise) issue.

The Sunday “No Hunting’ restrictions date back to when townships Bylaws were drafted to abide by the Lords Day Act and secular Sunday Observance laws. Hunting as well as any activity that caused ‘noise’ on Sunday was prohibited.

For example see: http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/etobic...s/0833_233.pdf

The efforts in Ontario to remove the ‘Sunday Hunting’ restrictions have been successful in most townships because it’s easy to argue as most of the other restrictions (sunday shopping, truck traffic ect.) that were based in the ‘Sunday Observance’ by-laws have long since been rescinded or ignored.

I can’t recall ever seeing a redrafting of a township bylaw that has reintroduced a ‘noise’ restriction specific to Firearm discharge. Especially since in most Bylaws, Firearm definitions include bows, air rifles, etc, so ‘noise’ is not the issue.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Sounds to me that you want to be free to break the law instead of following the laws already on the books and in place. What is wrong with someone wanting others living around them to be law abiding? I notice you said local customs not local laws. Is it customary for people in your community to break the law? If so you have more problems than nosey neighbours.

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Hey If I been keeping a couple of chickens for 35 years and yes I've been breaking the law oh bad me yet this community originally was founded on the shoulders of farming back round people the respected each other now if you move in and don't like the fact that I've got them and you use the local bylaws to get your way guess your well with in your rights. I've always felt live and let live. As a neighbour to an area that is legal to hunt in if you don't like hunting than its your responsibility to avoid its effects. You can first off put up a fence to coral your kids and if that's not enough put up a sound barrier. Just saying not your right to dictate what goes on your neighbours property which has been customary and in this case legal.
So in your words.." following the laws already on the books and in place. What is wrong with someone wanting others living around them to be law abiding?"
Do as you say.