Help needed - suggestions for a camera thief

That's a real bugger Skeeter. Damn low lifes. I'd be real ticked too. To me it sure appears to be antis, or maybe just some classless, thieving punks. Unless someone has a major hate on for you, that is.:eek:
Doesn't seem like a hunter to me. If I really wanted to screw the bait owner (you in this case) I would just let him keep doing all the work and then set up a stand to cut off the bait site. It is crown land.

Good luck with it Skeeter. I kinda doubt they'd be stupid enough to try a third time, specially knowing that you will be super prepared this time. But hopefully though you'll get lucky and they will be that greedy. :)

Cheers

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Originally Posted by SK33T3R

cuffs me in cuffs! the real threat is when I get out and the cuffs are off! When dealing with someone as ignorant as those people that did this. if someone unprovoked punches me in the mouth there will be a lot more blood before it's over. I might even lose but they will know they've been in a battle! and over what - a camera?

it's goes deeper then just a camera. If they're stupid enough to come back a third time then they really are stupid. The lesson they'll get will be remembered for a long time! and it might help them make smarter decisions in the future!

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Maybe you yourself are not actually in a position to obtain a great deal of help from either the police or the MNR. As this is on Crown Land are you allowed to leave your set up there over the 21 days.If you did perhaps these law breakers saw you as being another
law breaker.I think you are taking a very big chance thinking you might confront these guys in an isolated place and not risk your life.
There is a right way and a wrong way of doing things and you are chosing the wrong way IMHO.
If you are legally placed you need to notify the police and make a report,that way if the s really hits the fan,you can at least say you made an effort,otherwise you look like a vigilante.

the anti-crowd is one thing, the disgruntled neighbour another.
However, according to your statement the later does not apply, because you're far away from anyone. It's not only hunters who have an interest to be far away from anyone. As stated earlier, a hunter should have taken advantage of the situation rather than discouraging you to continue baiting.
I only walked once in a grow-op (kids from down the road and all plants dying), but it made me think what if those were serious criminals "protecting their investment".
There are quite some horror stories of what you could unknowingly get into.

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Originally Posted by Waftrudnir

the anti-crowd is one thing, the disgruntled neighbour another.
However, according to your statement the later does not apply, because you're far away from anyone. It's not only hunters who have an interest to be far away from anyone. As stated earlier, a hunter should have taken advantage of the situation rather than discouraging you to continue baiting.
I only walked once in a grow-op (kids from down the road and all plants dying), but it made me think what if those were serious criminals "protecting their investment".
There are quite some horror stories of what you could unknowingly get into.

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I know there is a lot of grey area that I'm treading into but how many times do we "sportsmen" have to take the high road and walk away with our tails tucked. I've been at this spot over 10 yrs probably longer. Gilroy says I might be risking harm to even myself. But I think the element of surprise is mine. Usually gutless people who did what they did are not tough individuals. When they are confronted they fold up like a cheap suit and beg for forgiveness. Why risk a criminal record which they might end up with depending on how far this goes. And they have never faced someone like me. Even wackos fear someone wackier then them.

We will see ... this happened over the Aug civic weekend as far as I can figure. Maybe they're just up there camping and won't be back till next year or never. Either way I will be prepped next week and also for next Aug. I feel sorry for the next vandalizer because he will take the wrath for his and the previous guys/gals!

can you go with another provider for cell service, dummy cams or spy point has a camera that has a box you can hide upto 50 feet away and transmitts pics to it.. good luck and keep us posted, sounds like some guy is pissed you are setup to close to him. i have guy that thinks all deer are his and trespasses on private property to screw with my cams stands etc. i set up a cam on a dummy cam and nailed him!

What general area is this happening in. I would imagine it would be young punks or a hippie tree hugger. Who would use an axe. Most local thieves around my hunting grounds would have a chainsaw and be in and out in minutes.

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Originally Posted by natehunter

What general area is this happening in. I would imagine it would be young punks or a hippie tree hugger. Who would use an axe. Most local thieves around my hunting grounds would have a chainsaw and be in and out in minutes.

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I figure the same probably punks up there camping for the weekend. all the had was an axe. me? I got 3 chainsaws. if I needed a camera that bad I would take it and a 1/2 cord of wood! will they be back next aug 1 long weekend?

anyway I'm starting to cool down. my arse is healing I guess!

but I went to BASS pro and got a spypoint tiny wbf this morning and after the old camera trade-in it was $179! WOW! SAIL has them for $349. I called SAIL asking if they had any they had 3 left. I asked if they price matched. Salesman said ABSOLUTELY YES! I said good I will be coming for a couple. I have my BASS pro bill $179 $203 all taxes in. Salemans was choking on the other end. said no-way! made me read him the bar code. yup same camera! he had to check with his manager. Manager said he couldn't -- I asked again do you price match? he said yes! I said obviously NOT! He said he can price match on anything else but not this! So there's price match and then there's price match with conditions. I told him I have never been to a SAIL store and now my first visit is tainted! I told him to keep his cameras and take me off the mailing list!

hypocritical if you ask me!

do ya ever feel that no matter whatcha do there always a bird dumping on ya!

anyway I'll be more careful at that bait and will be baiting more then bears next time around!

I actually had Sail match a gun shop in Peterborough just off a website price. Got $300 off the price of a new Citori White Lightning. So they do some price matching. Good luck with damned crooks, hope ya catch them. Thats why I stopped using game cams years ago.

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Originally Posted by SK33T3R

and after the old camera trade-in it was $179! WOW! SAIL has them for $349. I called SAIL asking if they had any they had 3 left. I asked if they price matched. Salesman said ABSOLUTELY YES! I said good I will be coming for a couple. I have my BASS pro bill $179 $203 all taxes in. Salemans was choking on the other end. said no-way! made me read him the bar code. yup same camera! he had to check with his manager. Manager said he couldn't -- I asked again do you price match? he said yes! I said obviously NOT! He said he can price match on anything else but not this! So there's price match and then there's price match with conditions. I told him I have never been to a SAIL store and now my first visit is tainted! I told him to keep his cameras and take me off the mailing list!

hypocritical if you ask me!

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playing devils advocate can't really knock sail for not price matching. Seeing how the price was based on a camera trade in can't expect them to match the price with out one at least. Question would be why you didn't purchase more from basspro while you were there.

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

playing devils advocate can't really knock sail for not price matching. Seeing how the price was based on a camera trade in can't expect them to match the price with out one at least. Question would be why you didn't purchase more from basspro while you were there.

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I told him I got $50 off with a camera trade-in. I then asked how low he could go.. same answer $349.
They wouldn't even meet me 1/2 way!
They've lost me and I've never been there!
Bass only had one left the sale started aug 21. by the time I discovered I needed one and did the research one was all they had.
they have one on turbo rush for me but the salesman said it may not be in before the sale ends.
He also said it depends on what come in on the next truck.
Vaughn was sold out too!