Are hunters really that un educated ?

Making sure that private property is properly signed is of utmost importance. Paying particular attention to the TPA sect 2(1)(b),it's required the owner or his/her agent (as defined under The Act) must first advise the offending party to immediately leave the premises when the property is not clearly marked or fencing and signage requirements aren't met or if the cultivation conditions aren't immediately apparent.
Reading statements from "the regs" booklet is a whole world different than knowing how the various Acts read and understanding case law. Precedents that have been set from time to time by the Courts governing those Acts is really the only time someone can say they actually "know the law." Mistakes can be embarrassing and expensive.

Not always again there are exceptions. I know crown land that does have barb wire fence on it.

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Originally Posted by welsh

The property described is clearly private and a person entering it without permission would be trespassing. If you cross a fenceline, you are obviously trespassing.

What looks like a big loophole in the Act isn't a big loophole at all. It really just lays out common sense. But you will always get people trying to argue they have rights that they don't.

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Entering onto land that you are unaware that it is private is one thing. Simply stating its not posted so you can trespass it or hunt it is another. Doesn't matter if your in the north or south. If you know its private get permission.

My mothers farm if you are driving along one road the half mile section simply looks like a crown land, your turn right at the stop sign and quickly realize its private. However that area is surrounded by all farms.

I know of waterfowl hunters who have asked permission and haven't been granted permission so they sneak in and try to hunt it early before the landowner is awake.

Hunters need to realize when they trespass or disrespect property owners they are setting a poor example and can ruin opportunities for other hunters. Lots of property owners grant permission however it only takes one incident for them to close their property to all hunters.

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Originally Posted by TheProvider00

Entering onto land that you are unaware that it is private is one thing. Simply stating its not posted so you can trespass it or hunt it is another. Doesn't matter if your in the north or south. If you know its private get permission.

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I I guess everyone is different , I have alway been taught if you don't know stop and ask don't just go venturing onto the land , hence why there is government land maps available at all town halls .
I hunt southern Ontario and there is very few parcels of land marked around my area . 99 percent of it private .

I guess i just cant rap my head around the fact that people just assume and head into the bush guns loaded . I was speaking with another farmer tonight about goose hunting his land , he said he kicked 10 different groups out last year , and I was the first ever to ask him permission to hunt the land , I got it but thought to myself that is ballsy , just pull into a cut field set out a spread and start hunting , hope know one comes out.

things like this shock me , is it un educated hunters doing this stuff or just stupidity/ lazy hunters that don't feel the need to ask?
I know there are hunters out there that know they are in the wrong and sneak into properties just because , and I also know some hunters don't know the boundaries to properties adjacent to the next which is a honest mistake , but just driving down a road , seeing a piece of land that is over grown say with popplers getting out and hunting it because it looks non maintained isn't ok .
Sorry for the rant but I can't seem to grasp this concept , maybe I was just brought up better than that and respect others land .

I will say this the first time I catch anyone hunting my set of popplers whether it be this monkey outfitter or a joe blow off the street , and they try and play the I thought it was crown land , I will be pulling a map out and showing them the property lines and they will be leaving quicker than they came in , one warning that's it. And the next dumb dumb that blocks my driveway to walk into my popplers his or her vehicle will be towed ,

Remember there are a lot of people that never leave the big city and think that outside the city is God's country. I believe some of them know full well that they are doing something wrong but I also believe there are some that just thinks it's okay after-all we are in God's country, no-one is going to care... Not saying it is right by any means just saying I think some people just lived in the square box too long....

I don't understand why you'd go into an area that you have never hunted and your not sure of without researching it with maps and google earth first. I enjoy exploring new areas but when unsure of the area I do my research first.

Funny story of a buddy in BC. Just outside of a small town in and valley with steep mountains on either side. He had a long driveway. He had to cut down a couple trees along the driveway so his truck is parked on the drive way as he is cutting up the wood. Vehicle rolls up behind him and starts honking. Within a few seconds they were yelling at him to get out of the way that they were in a hurry to go camping. He told them where to go :)

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Originally Posted by fratri

Remember there are a lot of people that never leave the big city and think that outside the city is God's country. I believe some of them know full well that they are doing something wrong but I also believe there are some that just thinks it's okay after-all we are in God's country, no-one is going to care... Not saying it is right by any means just saying I think some people just lived in the square box too long....

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Agreed

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Originally Posted by fratri

Remember there are a lot of people that never leave the big city and think that outside the city is God's country. I believe some of them know full well that they are doing something wrong but I also believe there are some that just thinks it's okay after-all we are in God's country, no-one is going to care... Not saying it is right by any means just saying I think some people just lived in the square box too long....

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Mojo's neck of the woods is well known for trespassing hunters, usually from Hamilton. They know better, they just conveniently forget, along with their English.