Patterning results - Winchester Long Beard and HEVI 13

The crimping is definitely interesting, never seen that on another shell. Thanks for breaking one open, that's pretty cool too.
great test, with great results. Thanks for sharing!!

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Originally Posted by Travaman

I tried Hornady Heavy Magnum 3" #5 and may use it for ducks...but not for anything past 20 yrds on the ground (just a mess with zero consistency).

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What choke did you use with the hornady?? It has a flight controlled wad so it is recommended to use an improved or mod choke, using a tight choke will not give you the best results. Oh and by the way it's illegal to use lead shot for ducks..............

I'll be honest I've found the Winchester supreme high velocity # 5s at half the price of the fancy turkey loads kills any bird I've shot at and a few over 50 yards. At about 2$ a shell.

With a modern full Turkey choke and a decent 3" shell and hunter who can put the bead where it needs to be a 40 yard shot is a chip shot.

Yup I still shoot the odd bird with gramps old single shot 16g with paper shells 2.75 inch #5 shot.kills them stone dead.lol

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Originally Posted by duckslayer

What choke did you use with the hornady?? It has a flight controlled wad so it is recommended to use an improved or mod choke, using a tight choke will not give you the best results. Oh and by the way it's illegal to use lead shot for ducks..............

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Thanks duckslayer, much appreciated - I have never been for waterfowl but will, of course be doing my homework before hand! Every bit helps!
I was using my factory accu x-full choke with this so that could likely be the case! I will try with my modified or even IC sometime int he future. Right now I'm satisfied with the pattern given the season is 2 weekends away.

Cheers & safe hunting!

I have only ever seen the illustrated graphics of these shells broken down. Thanks for taking one apart and photographing.

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Originally Posted by 410001661

Leakyboots - well I'll be damned there is a resin in the shot cup that holds together the shot.

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It is not a hard resin as it was breaking in my hand as I took apart the shell but it almost looked like it was a clear brittle resin.

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Here you can see the shot cup (the wad) and the piece of felt on the underside of the wad. Behind the felt patch was a plastic seal that kept the powder in the head of the shell.

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With part of the wad shot cup removed you can see more of this resin - it goes all the way to the bottom of the wad and I might say the quality was very good (very consistent).

See....you lean a new thing every day!!

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Originally Posted by 410001661

Leakyboots - well I'll be damned there is a resin in the shot cup that holds together the shot.

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It is not a hard resin as it was breaking in my hand as I took apart the shell but it almost looked like it was a clear brittle resin.

Attachment 32655Attachment 32656

Here you can see the shot cup (the wad) and the piece of felt on the underside of the wad. Behind the felt patch was a plastic seal that kept the powder in the head of the shell.

Attachment 32657

With part of the wad shot cup removed you can see more of this resin - it goes all the way to the bottom of the wad and I might say the quality was very good (very consistent).

See....you lean a new thing every day!!

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Is it possible your shell was dropped or you gripped the shell with pliers or something when you cut it open? I took apart the same shell in a #6 shot this morning. I found that the resin was actually pretty hard, I tried squeezing or crushing the encapsulated pellet bunch between my fingers and my hand but could not get the bunch to come apart. I'm sure if I drop it on the table or hit it with something hard it will start to fracture.

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I also made a quick 40 sec video of how hard the pellets in the resin are but can't seem to upload it.

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Originally Posted by Monster29/66

I'll be honest I've found the Winchester supreme high velocity # 5s at half the price of the fancy turkey loads kills any bird I've shot at and a few over 50 yards. At about 2$ a shell.

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2$ instead of 2.2$ for afancy Long beard, is far for half the price! At 30$ the bird I won't cheap out, for 20c,if it gives me a better pattern.....
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/sports...ontent=Default

Hopefully this link works, its a short video of the resin and how solid it actually is.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86_R1-M6Mqk