50 killed in Florida

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Originally Posted by Oddmott

Most clubs, even in states with cc, don't allow weapons. For obvious reasons.

JoePa's statements are mind boggling (as well as completely contradictory).

Yeah, sure, a bunch of drunk, high and deafened partiers, packed into a club like sardines would totally be capable of firing through a mass of seething humanity, while everyone panics in terror, in extremely low light levels... to successfully kill the murderer.

Right.

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Remember, without hitting anyone who is not the murderer.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

Holy mackeral Fox - how does what you say make what I said invalid? - maybe the cop was a poor shot - are you telling me that if several people in that crowd were armed things would not have been different - come on man - give me a break -

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Originally Posted by seabast

Yes, we do!
How many time in the US a gun owner stopped a mass shooting? It aint like tv, when the fecal matter hits the fan people run for their life, with gun or without, and couldn't care less about who's behind.....

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Didn't carrying civilians stop that recent attempted terrorist attack in Texas?

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Originally Posted by Maximus44

Didn't carrying civilians stop that recent attempted terrorist attack in Texas?

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Nope, it was a police officer who was on scene that wounded them and the SWAT team were the ones who ended the conflict.

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Originally Posted by Maximus44

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Didn't carrying civilians stop that recent attempted terrorist attack in Texas?
Nope, it was a police officer who was on scene that wounded them and the SWAT team were the ones who ended the conflict.

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How my nane got into that!?!

Keep it up guys, I'm enjoying the show. Have some popcorn.

When a guy comes into a place and starts shooting up the place - as soon as people realize what is going on they take off running - if I were there the first thing I would do is duck behind something and calmly pull out my handgun and starting shooting at the guy - turning my back and running is not an option - especially if you are armed - all of these mass shootings have been in places where guns are not allowed -

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Originally Posted by JoePa

When a guy comes into a place and starts shooting up the place - as soon as people realize what is going on they take off running - if I were there the first thing I would do is duck behind something and calmly pull out my handgun and starting shooting at the guy - turning my back and running is not an option - especially if you are armed - all of these mass shootings have been in places where guns are not allowed -

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I think you need to go to a club, your plan will never work.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

When a guy comes into a place and starts shooting up the place - as soon as people realize what is going on they take off running - if I were there the first thing I would do is duck behind something and calmly pull out my handgun and starting shooting at the guy - turning my back and running is not an option - especially if you are armed - all of these mass shootings have been in places where guns are not allowed -

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Joe Pa ! your statement just doesn't make any sense at all, if you pulled out your handgun in a place where they are not allowed, you would be committing a criminal act and would be charged, that is the way I see it .
By what you are saying is that you would carry your handgun into any place even though it is not allowed, which is then condoning a criminal activity which could end up with you behind bars.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

When a guy comes into a place and starts shooting up the place - as soon as people realize what is going on they take off running - if I were there the first thing I would do is duck behind something and calmly pull out my handgun and starting shooting at the guy - turning my back and running is not an option - especially if you are armed - all of these mass shootings have been in places where guns are not allowed -

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Such horse shyte.

First of all, good luck finding something to hide behind in most clubs. They keep the floor plans as open and clutter free as possible to negate traffic issues and potential lawsuits from tumbles, falls, etc. We're not talking about 1970s lounges with big booths and tables and stuff. Dance clubs are big open rooms with little more than the odd support post.

Second of all, not a single LEO or military guy i know who has been in a firefight claimed to be calm while shooting at someone armed with a military grade weapon. I highly doubt your - and nearly everyone's - ability to "stay calm" in such a situation.

Even if such calm is possible and you manage to achieve it there's the matter of hundreds of people slamming into you, continuously, as they rush past to escape. Good luck managing accurate shooting from that. You can stand 30 ft from any man sized target you like and i'll just poke you roughly, not even run into you with my 250lbs, and you won't land a single lethal hit. I guarantee it.