Cops Killed in Dallas

A little more than a year ago, or 2 we had numerous threads following a take down somewhere, where the guy started having trouble breathing, and about 8 officers watched him die. This was just after the riots in Ferguson.

took some heat for talking about the "Public Trust". Why accountability for those who have power over the public , be they politicians, bankers on Wall Street, or LEO is so important. Why, anytime cops here cross the line, or screw up I am afamamant that heads need to roll. Said it way back then, when the public trust erodes, anarchy steps in and ultimately the men (and women) I'm blue pay the prices.

sadly today a number have.
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Joe is right in so much as it starts at the top. Elected officials who aren't held accountable, LEO and more.

Not sure we should be too smug though, we aren't that far behind
/points at the corruption in Queens Park
/points at G20 and only one middle level scape goat (Blair??)
/points at Sammy Yatim and others
/points at officers collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars for years while suspended for serious crimes
/points at growing distrust of both Leo and politicians here.
and no accountability.

thankfully at least here in Canada, those of us in "banking/Bay street" take it seriously and heads do roll. And the distrust there isn't as bad as the distrust of/on wall street

3 strikes and your.....

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Originally Posted by JoePa

Yes - it was a very sad event - feel very sorry for the dead cops and their families - feel sorry for the black guys that got shot - who is to blame? - why are people so mad at cops? - is it the cops that caused such an event to happen? - you tell me - people are angry in this country - just look at what happened a few days ago - you got a person who has money and influence breaks all kinds of laws - lies and lies about everything and nothing happens to her - lied under oath too - if this was the average Joe - he'd be in jail - all it is going to take is some disaster to happen - either natural or man made and this country is going to explode

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Do you think her lies over using a private server for email will have a bigger cultural impact on GwB lies about Iraq ? I don't know how many died over her emails but I'm willing to bet not as many American lives compared to lies about why you needed to go to Iraq

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Originally Posted by bardern

I call BS on that

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And so it begins....
http://www.citynews.ca/2016/07/09/ho...-wielding-man/

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Originally Posted by JoePa

Just the opposite - the citizens have the guns to fight back and stop the government agents from running rough shot over them - if the citizens didn't have the guns there would be no way to stop the government agents from enslaving them - look at history - in Germany, Russia, China, Cambodia .etc etc - it was the agents of the government that killed and imprisoned the citizens - at least here in America the people can fight back - if there is a wrong you can peacefully demonstrate until the cows come home before anything is done - if ever - sometimes it takes violence to get attention -

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Citizens with guns trying to stop the Gov. always loose.
Just look at what happened in 1992 in Idaho, Ruby Ridge, 93 Waco Texas, Cliven Bundy in Nevada and in Portland Oregon, the Gov. always wins.

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Originally Posted by cantcatchacold

Do you think her lies over using a private server for email will have a bigger cultural impact on GwB lies about Iraq ? I don't know how many died over her emails but I'm willing to bet not as many American lives compared to lies about why you needed to go to Iraq

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I hear what your saying - the only difference I think is that with Bush - from what I have read - is that everyone was telling him that Iraq was making weapons of mass destruction - that includes other countries - he believed what he was being told - him lying about it is speculation at best

JoePa, answer this question for me , Where were all the armed people in Dallas during this shooting ?
In Texas /Dallas , where people can carry handguns anywhere , all i see in the videos is people running helter skelter , and not anyone anywhere was there to stop this gunman from shooting those cops.
Where were all these brave armed citizens when it comes down to the real thing ?

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Originally Posted by jaycee

Citizens with guns trying to stop the Gov. always loose.
Just look at what happened in 1992 in Idaho, Ruby Ridge, 93 Waco Texas, Cliven Bundy in Nevada and in Portland Oregon, the Gov. always wins.

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Then there are incidents like - Cuba, American Revolution , the Russian Revolution and every other revolution that has occurred where the people throw over the government - it can be done when enough people get fed up with the government -

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Originally Posted by JoePa

Then there are incidents like - Cuba, American Revolution , the Russian Revolution and every other revolution that has occurred where the people throw over the government - it can be done when enough people get fed up with the government -

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That all happened way back in History, the world has changed [ American Revolution , the Russian Revolution ] and Gov.Forces have gotten much bigger and Powerful.
You're telling me that you would stand up against the firepower of the U.S. Army , with your handgun and hunting rifle , come on JOE , even you cant be that naive to think you would win.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

JoePa, answer this question for me , Where were all the armed people in Dallas during this shooting ?
In Texas /Dallas , where people can carry handguns anywhere , all i see in the videos is people running helter skelter , and not anyone anywhere was there to stop this gunman from shooting those cops.
Where were all these brave armed citizens when it comes down to the real thing ?

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The last thing someone should do is get their gun and show up at a place where the cops were being shot at - the cops may think that you are one of the shooters and shoot you - then remember most people have guns for self protection - not for aiding the cops in any shootout - after all the cops are getting paid for what they do - then there are a lot of people who don't like cops and the last thing they will do is help the cops

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Originally Posted by JoePa

The last thing someone should do is get their gun and show up at a place where the cops were being shot at - the cops may think that you are one of the shooters and shoot you - then remember most people have guns for self protection - not for aiding the cops in any shootout - after all the cops are getting paid for what they do - then there are a lot of people who don't like cops and the last thing they will do is help the cops

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Whatever Joe, you waffle from one side to the other, have it your way which ever way it is that you want to go at the time ?