Wolf/Coyote hunting banned immediately.

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Originally Posted by Fox

What percentage of the property in those areas is active farm land?

This is not a ban on hunting in SW Ontario but rather big bush areas.

On top of that this is a hunting ban, shooting animals that are killing your livestock is not hunting, that is not being changed.

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There are herds of cattle on QE2 Wildlands PP, so someone is running cattle in the bush.

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Originally Posted by Big Jack

Absolutely disgusting. Instead of banning it they should have put a bounty on them.

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They should have repealed the entire ban already in place as indicated by the UofT and Trent studies.It quite clearly is meaningless and ecologically unsound.

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Originally Posted by skypilot

There are herds of cattle on QE2 Wildlands PP, so someone is running cattle in the bush.

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There's still active cattle operations and sheep farms inside the KHPP boundaries,not sure of the QEII Wildlands. These are a real bone of contention between owners and the government and have been since the Toronto cottagers started all this crap. With all things Liberal,the squeeky wheel gets the grease,especially,if there's money and votes attached.:mad:

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Originally Posted by skypilot

There are herds of cattle on QE2 Wildlands PP, so someone is running cattle in the bush.

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It is still legal to protect your livestock, shoot them if they are going after your livestock, nothing illegal about that.

Please take a look a the maps but I am pretty sure it does not matter.

I know that the people up in arms are the ones that want every predator dead, bears, wolves, coyotes, fox, anything that may predate on their hunting opportunities needs to be wiped off the face of the earth, I know how it is.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

Makes you wonder how /why they picked on certain townships, Butt, McCraney and Livingston are all along the western side of Algonquin Park, yet they are not listed as closed townships in this wolf ban.
We hunt moose in Livingston township which is in WMU#54 , which abuts the park,and where we see /hear mainly , wolves when we are up there, very strange ???

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Those townships are part of the original ban. Any township touching the park are off limits.

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Originally Posted by trappermatt

Well our wonderful MNRF has went ahead and did it , good luck to the deer and moose and beaver populations in these areas

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Matt I don't know much about trapping but what does this mean with respect to quotas in these areas? How many would one line expect to be allotted in the season?

I don't hunt coyotes or wolves, nor the ban affect me. This is still a huge "mistake".

Would it it be reasonable to assume that coyotes and coyote hybrids will do well without hunting pressure ( see bears). Would it be unreasonable to propose they will lose their fear of man? Know those that I came across while deer hunting 53a had zero and I do mean zero fear us. Twice coming within 20 feet.

would it then be reasonable then to expect livestock to "suffer" the consequences more? And would it then be reasonable to suspect farm owners will have a harder time.

would it be reasonable to suspect that many other species lower on the food chain will suffer. Like Beaver, WT, Moose, Fox.

Would it be unreasonable to expect them to expand even further, especially coyotes, which are already causing problems and are not native.

Has nothing to do with hunting.

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Originally Posted by Fox

It is still legal to protect your livestock, shoot them if they are going after your livestock, nothing illegal about that.

Please take a look a the maps but I am pretty sure it does not matter.

I know that the people up in arms are the ones that want every predator dead, bears, wolves, coyotes, fox, anything that may predate on their hunting opportunities needs to be wiped off the face of the earth, I know how it is.

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I doubt that many ranchers/farmers kill very many wolves. Trappers may get a portion of those taken along with a few from hunters.

I personally don't know any haters but I also have no doubt there are some, I just doubt they affect wolf/coyote populations in any threatening way.

Looks like it will affect all of my Northern coyote hunting area.

Fox what is wrong with you are you an anti planted on here?

It's not about hating predators.

It's about losing animals to trap and hunt it's about people's livelyhoods and
incomes.

And what's next to be banned?


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Originally Posted by Fox

It is still legal to protect your livestock, shoot them if they are going after your livestock, nothing illegal about that.

Please take a look a the maps but I am pretty sure it does not matter.

I know that the people up in arms are the ones that want every predator dead, bears, wolves, coyotes, fox, anything that may predate on their hunting opportunities needs to be wiped off the face of the earth, I know how it is.

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actually no many of the people who are concerned about this don't feel that way , but thanks for trying to lump us all into one basket

I don't live in the area that has been declared 'no hunting' but like many I will be affected by a decision like this. If MNR can close some areas they can and will close other areas in the future.

This decision I would bet was fueled by the Minister's inner beaurocratic circle who often make decisions for our politicians. It lacks common sense, good science, other government input and is downright stupid. They are also over influenced by certain stake holders that complain a lot. I will predict that in those areas we will see a dramatic increase in animal/people contact and animal/livestock issues. This will go the same way that human/bear encounters increased after the govt's decision to cancel the spring season.

What a knee-jerk decision!

Currently in Newfoundland there is a law suit against the Province for introducing moose which have resulted in many highway accidents and some fatalities. I can only assume a similar course of action once we have a wolf/coyote related death in one of these areas.

Common Sense not being very common!