Obituary of Hero

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Originally Posted by Fox

There are a pile of ware documentaries that are not that bias but most of them were made well after the war and many outside of the US.

I forget the names of the programs but in November when the History Channel actually has history documentaries on it you can find some really good ones that look at all sides of the war, including the ones that show that every German was not a Nazi.

There are some really good Russian documentaries as well but they are very bias, they just show things from their side.

If you have a chance to talk to some vets from that era, the majority by far will speak of a war between kids fighting for their country and home land, no matter what side they were on, they were all the same and scared to death of what was going on around them every day.

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Of course not every German was a Nazi. That's like saying every Canadian is a Liberal because they are currently in power. My parents were teenagers in the Netherlands during the second world war and experienced first hand German soldiers on occasion confiding with the dutch that they wanted no part in Hitlers ideology. They were forced to fight, kill and gas innocent people or be killed.

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

Of course not every German was a Nazi. That's like saying every Canadian is a Liberal because they are currently in power. My parents were teenagers in the Netherlands during the second world war and experienced first hand German soldiers on occasion confiding with the dutch that they wanted no part in Hitlers ideology. They were forced to fight, kill and gas innocent people or be killed.

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That is my point entirely, the problem with many films and books produced right after the war tend to paint the entire populous with the same brush. There were also many instances of those outside of the axis nations but with those as their heritages to be painted with the same brush as the enemies. The Japanese and German internment camps in the US and Canada are prime examples of those, no matter how many generations you were away from the parent nation you were still painted with that brush.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

If you were a white male - what in the world does that have anything to do with fighting a war - from the comments you make sometimes I kinda wonder how old you are - it does show how limited your experience in life has been - remember - MAGA

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They were not the greatest generation to those they oppressed ,like anyone who was not white or male in your own country at the time. I am 61 years old and my father was a pilot in the RCAF. In my profession I was lucky enough spend time with some of the last surviving veterans of WW1 before they passed.

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

JoePa, Still waiting for your response to my quiz to you regarding "Juno Beach"? And dont google it! Be honest and tell us where you think it is?

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I don't have to goggle it - it is in France

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Originally Posted by Dythbringer

Calling a person undergoing treatment for brain cancer a bum; how wonderfully "Christian" of you.

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A bum is a bum no matter what is happening to him - what am I suppose to do - lie and say that he is a nice guy just because he is sick - he was always a typical politician talking out of the both sides of his mouth and always grabbing the headlines - with your way of thinking you can't call anyone a bum because after all we are all going to die - some sooner than others

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

They were not the greatest generation to those they oppressed ,like anyone who was not white or male in your own country. I am 61 years old and my father was a pilot in the RCAF.

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Honestly, calling the men and women who fought in WW2 the greatest generation is an American idea. A person could logically argue the generation of human who fought in WW1 was the greatest generation because how much warfare changed from previous wars. It was the first Industrial Age war fought. Early tanks, automatic machine guns, improved grenades, early air bombing campaigns from bi-planes, etc all scaled human killing rates much faster than any other time in our history.

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Originally Posted by Dythbringer

Honestly, calling the men and women who fought in WW2 the greatest generation is an American idea. A person could logically argue the generation of human who fought in WW1 was the greatest generation because how much warfare changed from previous wars. It was the first Industrial Age war fought. Early tanks, automatic machine guns, improved grenades, early air bombing campaigns from bi-planes, etc all scaled human killing rates much faster than any other time in our history.

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It could be argued that the greatest generation would be one that could use diplomacy to keep from having a world wide conflict and ethnic cleansing.

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Originally Posted by Fox

It could be argued that the greatest generation would be one that could use diplomacy to keep from having a world wide conflict and ethnic cleansing.

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Fox - let us all know how you go about doing that when you have evil dictators wanting to enslave people - whenever that was tried it turned out to be a disaster - the only way to stop evil is to fight it

If the U.S. had not entered the war the outcome would probably been different - I know other countries suffered and sacrificed during the war but it was America's industrial might that was the turning point - Churchill even said that if the U.S. did not enter the war England was finished - it was the planes, tanks, trucks, etc. that allowed Allies - including Russia - to finally win

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Originally Posted by JoePa

Fox - let us all know how you go about doing that when you have evil dictators wanting to enslave people - whenever that was tried it turned out to be a disaster - the only way to stop evil is to fight it

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Then why are you not fighting trump? He is evil.