They used to feed the deer down the Jack Lake Road area in Apsley,I suppose all that is gone now.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
Printable View
They used to feed the deer down the Jack Lake Road area in Apsley,I suppose all that is gone now.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycee
The MNRF interferred with the Loring deer yards much the same way they interferred with the Walleye enhancment programme run by volunteers in the Loring area. The fish ponds that were made to rear walleye fingerlings for the local lakes worked really well but that programme is gone as well.
The most important thing we can do as individuals right now is to remember to complete (by mail, phone or internet) the MNRF deer hunt questionnaires that we all received. This is the data upon which the MNRF makes future management decisions. Please complete and submit your questionnaires.
On an organizational scale, I've been reaching out on behalf of our hunt camp to OFAH Zone D, OFAH Directors-at-large and to the Ontario Hunt Camps Association to work with them to get our concerns to the MNRF. If you are not a member of any of these organizations, I suggest you put your comments/concerns in writing directly to the MNRF (Peterborough head office) and to Norm Miller MPP.
Don't lie though, tons of guys figure that if they say they saw a pile of deer then they will get more antlerless tags.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninepointer
Great conservationists eh.
That would truly be sad if hunters lied on their surveys simply to get more antlerless tags in a WMU where the deer are currently not doing well at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
This fall between 1-week hunters and 2-week hunters we had 26 hunters in our camp and 15 antlerless tags. That's way more tags than we could ever possibly hope to use. Tags are of no use if there are no deer to hang them on.
The back-to-back harsh winters of 2013 & 2014 decimated the WMU 47 deer herd and last winter was almost as bad. That's 3 bad winters in 5 years. The herd has not recovered. It can recover; deer have an amazingly resilient reproductive capacity. But the herd needs to be given a chance to recover. If that means antlerless tag restrictions, so be it. I'd also like to see biologically-sound supplemental feeding reinstated in the Loring deer yard to support a recovery, along with a more nimble program for emergency feeding that can be put into action when its actually needed.
They need to shut down for doe tags in our area for 3 years. Zones are too big, our area is decimated yet some parts of 49 are ok.
They do it all the time, people say to pad the numbers all the time, make sure we do not lose tags then talk conservationist when natives go out and shoot moose, see the problem here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninepointer
I think they should have mandatory check in stations for the animals like they do in many states, I do not really care how far you are away from a station, it would be a very responsible thing to do, especially in an area where number are hurting.
I haven't hunted the area in 4 years, but talk to my cousins who live in Loring area and hunt the 2 weeks. 6 of them this year hunted, saw and got 1 small deer. Glad I didn't go this year.
I agree that if the population in WMU 47 is in bad shape, antlerless tags should be reduced.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninepointer
I don't agree with supplemental feeding. My view is that this will just artificially increase the population beyond the natural carrying capacity of the region. Why not just let the population return to a balanced level without supplemental feeding - maybe then there wouldn't be these drastic fluctuations? I don't want to start a war here, and I I think that you are one of the posters on this site that always presents sensible, well thought-out views, so I'd like to hear why you support the reinstatement of supplemental feeding.
I would also ask Ninepointer the usefulness of the questionnaire.You see the same single doe for a week,but then answer you saw seven deer.No wonder the survey becomes redundant.