I don't know why the deer population crashed

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

So I'm about done with this thread. for the life of me I don't know why someone would portray hunting in such a negative way on a hunting site.
Instead of moaning about the negative impact hunters may have ( and I speculate it has more too do with ones own lack of success than another's success)
Try celebrating the accomplishments Hunters have made from the reintroduction of turkeys to the countless wetlands put back.
Lets keep this hunting forum a place to celebrate the tradition.
If you must be a negative Nellie keep it to the off topic section as it really has nothing too do with hunting.

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You have totally missed the point of the post.

Recognition if the impact is not a negative thing, it ties to make people think conservation, would that not be a very positive thing?

I for one would love to be able to hunt with my daughter for moose in Ontario, at this point I do not think that will be possible, at least not in a productive way.

My dad and I have discussed the impact of our hunting on the local populations where we hunt (he lives 600km from me), we do not take all the does that we have tags for, he chooses not to shoot any does at all due to the decline in the last 5 years on his home property, it is recognition for what is going on around us.

Consider the impact before going out and doing it, the choice is inevitably yours as long as you stay within the laws but understand what the consequences of your actions are.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Well you seem to pretty thin skinned to be on this forum,talking "ethnic slurs" and other garbage.I am from Europe for a start off and dont really care were you are from becasue that is not the issue.The issue is that we hunters do have an affect on wildlife populations.I have been to Portugal for instance,you will be lucky to see anything to hunt,period.All shot out over the years and yes song birds on the barbeque with beer after.That is a reality there.There are countless instances of over hunting all over the World map.Here in Ontario we have lost most of the Moose population and the deer are in decline in a lot of places.Our
cotton tail population is down,we no longer have pheasants,jacks are down.As I said before I am not blaming hunters for all of this but we are a big part.Having an overly positive attitude can be more damaging than a realistic negative one.

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Look at how low fish stocks are in areas where limits do not exist, heck, I have witnessed people leaving fishing holes with a 5 gallon pail of pan fish under 4in, this does have an impact on the population.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

A European study has confirmed that;

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You must be living an some type of alternative reality.A simple drive almost anywhere in the Ontario countryside 30 years ago especially this time of year would reveal jack tracks crossing highways and up over the other side of snow banks.You simply do not see this anymore in all those places.There are "pockets" left
of jack rabbits where gonduckin and others on here are still finding jacks but the population is way down.Instead of posting a study from a selected study from Denmark,post an Ontario study showing the jack population?

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Originally Posted by Fox

Look at how low fish stocks are in areas where limits do not exist, heck, I have witnessed people leaving fishing holes with a 5 gallon pail of pan fish under 4in, this does have an impact on the population.

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Yeh its pretty amazing how skewed some folks reality is on this subject.A simple read of what forum members are posting for low numbers for Moose and Deer
on this very forum should ring some alarm bells.There are literally dozens and dozens of posts about how bad the deer and moose hunts have become and its all over the map,camps closing because they can no longer get tags to hunt.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Well you seem to pretty thin skinned to be on this forum,talking "ethnic slurs" and other garbage.I am from Europe for a start off and dont really care were you are from becasue that is not the issue.The issue is that we hunters do have an affect on wildlife populations.I have been to Portugal for instance,you will be lucky to see anything to hunt,period.All shot out over the years and yes song birds on the barbeque with beer after.That is a reality there.There are countless instances of over hunting all over the World map.Here in Ontario we have lost most of the Moose population and the deer are in decline in a lot of places.Our
cotton tail population is down,we no longer have pheasants,jacks are down.As I said before I am not blaming hunters for all of this but we are a big part.Having an overly positive attitude can be more damaging than a realistic negative one.

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Portugal looks pretty good too me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8evai7wfYFY&t=709s
[COLOR=#0066cc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tUDb6yHxek
Those who can do.
those who can't preach

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Originally Posted by Fox

Look at how low fish stocks are in areas where limits do not exist, heck, I have witnessed people leaving fishing holes with a 5 gallon pail of pan fish under 4in, this does have an impact on the population.

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Fishing must be good than. There will always be those who can fill a pail and when they can't move on to richer feeding grounds than there are others who sit there and cry how bad the fishing is.

There's none so blind as those who will not see
I saw deer, sky full of birds and even a sitting Jack

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

There's none so blind as those who will not see
I saw deer, sky full of birds and even a sitting Jack

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Where.......?

This is a stupid thread

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Where.......?

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In the waste land of Portugal
here's another one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpGfzT8eqc&t=26s

Nice countryside for shooting " Birds " "