Single use plastics in ammunition

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Why not ?...if they use recycle waste and reduces the cost of ammo , even by a 1/3 ..well worth looking into...

And yes they work ..reloading concerns in video !!

https://www.polymersolutions.com/blo...ridge-casings/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=IaZBQJur-NA

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I'm still not buying it. The plastic in shot-shell ammo is bad enough. Now you want to add to the problem with using recycled plastic in rifle ammo. They talk about reloading the stuff but there is no video on how it's being done.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

I'm still not buying it. The plastic in shot-shell ammo is bad enough. Now you want to add to the problem with using recycled plastic in rifle ammo. They talk about reloading the stuff but there is no video on how it's being done.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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The plastic rounds are for reduced weight for military use, that is what I read. No military has ever cared about reloadability of cases.

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Originally Posted by Fox

The plastic rounds are for reduced weight for military use, that is what I read. No military has ever cared about reloadability of cases.

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Neither does what 85% of hunters/shooters ?

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Neither does what 85% of hunters/shooters ?

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Exactly, they could all be using steel cased berdan primed cases.

The same can be said for shotgun shooters, go back to paper hulls with biodegradable wads and not worry about it.

There is a lot of single use plastics in the shooter sports, not just the wads either, rifle cartridge boxes have plastic to hold the ammo, have for a long time, why not go with cardboard and save that environmental expense, they used to be in all cardboard boxes.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Neither does what 85% of hunters/shooters ?

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I always have to smile when someone lights into the topic of us remaining true to our hunting heritage. They often overlook the fact when it came to ammunition, our grandfathers rarely had the inclination or the cash to purchase manufactured ammunition. They held on their spent cartridges and purchased the components necessary to reload them. With rifle ammunition they even bought the molds to cast their own bullets. There was little to doubt about their ammunition’s reliability and consistency, since it was a product of their own hands. Then again, the firearm actions they used, didn’t leave them beating the bushes to come up with their spent cartridges.


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

I always have to smile when someone lights into the topic of us remaining true to our hunting heritage. They often overlook the fact when it came to ammunition, our grandfathers rarely had the inclination or the cash to purchase manufactured ammunition. They held on their spent cartridges and purchased the components necessary to reload them. With rifle ammunition they even bought the molds to cast their own bullets. There was little to doubt about their ammunition’s reliability and consistency, since it was a product of their own hands. Then again, the firearm actions they used, didn’t leave them beating the bushes to come up with their spent cartridges.


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Whose grandfathers? My grandpa was born in 25, he never loaded ammunition in his life, he had a 16ga single shot Stevens and a Cooey single shot 22LR, he did not target shoot, he went out with his 22 for groundhogs in the pastures and with his ferret along side used the 16ga to get cottontail rabbits. My other grandpa had a 12ga bolt gun, 303 Brit No 4 sporter, Cooey 600 in 22LR, Cooey single shot in 25 Stevens. He still had 6 rounds of Canuck 25 Stevens when he passed away, we found a box of Winchester Ball ammo from 1943 and his stash of Imperial 180gr 303 Brit ammo as well, he never reloaded his ammo.

Our grandfathers did not shoot to shoot, they shot to hunt and for the most part these guys did not reload.

The one who had the 303 Brit did not believe you could make ammo any better than a factory and laughed at reloading, his Ross rifle when he was a kid was the most accurate rifle he ever put his hands on, again 303 Brit in chambering.

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Rio has a biodegradable wad

https://www.wideopenspaces.com/first...o-be-released/

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I can reload the hulls, or throw them in the recycling. The wad is never found.

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Whose grandfathers?

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Well Gun Nut isn't a Wiper snapper..maybe his Grandfathers shot Black Powder in their day and had to reload every shot.. HaHa...

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Nice sentiment ..but impossible to do and make any significant impact....take the lowly straw and the plastic wrapping stuff from the grocery store.. they're thrown in the plastic bag under the kitchen sink, then taken to the even heavier/stronger plastic bag that holds the weekly garbage then taken to the curb. Then off to landfill.

Those two layers of plastic holding the single use plastic waste will never degrade so the contents of the bags is a non-issue. Inventing something biodegradable that is capable of handling the trash from a house....not in the foreseeable future and cost prohibitive.

Controlling waste disposal as a whole is the answer...incinerators like Singapore uses have solved the problem. Turn pollution into a resource.

Making straws illegal is a stupid gesture; more 'virtue singling' from Climate Barbie and the environmentalists.

Watch the video...I think you'll be amazed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVam-rh4XAw

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Ya sounds good.....everything but where they place the ash..... But I can see it working or doing a better job then we are doing now... Definitely a good beginning...

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...everything but where they place the ash...

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They could dump that ash down Inco mining shafts in Manitoba, with no health risk to humanity , for the next 100 yrs and not make a dent in the space available.