Cormorants

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

No one said anything about "eradication" which would be impossible,at any rate. What we need is a concerted effort to cull the species from over population. Declaring them as varmints is only a first step. Biologic methods are also useful. There's simply far too many of them,nobody can deny that. Your analogy to human over population is ridiculous.

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When they don't have any facts they use Emotional statements.

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

If you read my initial premise carefully, you might understand where I’m coming from.
Do you believe that the over population of the human specie, and the spreading of their range is beneficial to the environment? If yes, please explain why. The Cormorants haven’t begun to be as detrimental to the environment as our specie. Why should we attempt to eradicate a specie that doesn’t stand a chance of messing up the environment half as much as we have. The Cormorant may even be an asset in dealing with some of the invasive species that have been devastating our fishery. The last great population of a specie that use to break tree limbs and wreck forests was the passenger pigeon. It’s number were so extensive while flying over head they could literally blot out the rays of the sun. It was hunted to extinction by market hunter to provide table fare an expanding population of humans. Maybe it’s a good thing that the Cormorant isn’t that eatable.

You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Things that make one give their head a shake !!!!

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

When they don't have any facts they use Emotional statements.

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If they need “facts”, take a ride to the islands in the west end of Erie!!!!!

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

No one said anything about "eradication" which would be impossible,at any rate. What we need is a concerted effort to cull the species from over population. Declaring them as varmints is only a first step. Biologic methods are also useful. There's simply far too many of them,nobody can deny that. Your analogy to human over population is ridiculous.

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If that is the case it is equally ridiculous to cull another specie if it has over population problems. It can't help it if it enjoys procreating when there is no need for it to do so. As the environment seems to be entirely in a state of crisis. Humans endeavors to point their finger at every thing else while neglecting to realize they have three remaining fingers that curve round and point back at themselves. Wonder who finally figured out that climate change was a direct result of human activity. If it is and I say if, the obvious momentum behind it is human over population.The more of us, the hotter it's likely to get. Because more humans mean more human activity. There's simply far too many of us, nobody can deny that. So the analogy to Cormorant over population is not that ridiculous.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut.

Hey Gun Nut, I have a Cousin that is working a Phd. Could you talk to him for a while?

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

No one said anything about "eradication" which would be impossible,at any rate. What we need is a concerted effort to cull the species from over population. Declaring them as varmints is only a first step. Biologic methods are also useful. There's simply far too many of them,nobody can deny that. Your analogy to human over population is ridiculous.

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Actually at one point we did have a method of culling the human specie, it was call war. The Napoleonic Wars, World .War I, followed by World .War II. Then we discovered nuclear weaponry and decided a war fought in that type of theater could spell the end of our specie, as well as a goodly number of others. Back then we didn’t use terms like varmints, they were just referred to as enemies. After population numbers leveled off, peace treaties were signed , after which population numbers would again increase towards a later time of conflict. When nuclear weaponry came along it upset the pattern, there were still culls but they were more or less localized conflicts, nothing of mayor proportion . These, of course, have spawn ensuing refugee crises, while the rise in population numbers have lead to the current migration trends. Overtime as human spread across geographical area, they displace wild habitat and wildlife. Talk about crisis, a few years back there was always a paragraph in the Ontario Hunting Regulations that use to list endangered species. Now the list it seems has grown so long it would fill a booklet as thick as the Regulations. I can’t imagine why. Let’s blame the Cormorants they are as good a target as any. Maybe they should be added to the list of unprotected song birds along with the American crow, red-wing blackbird, cowbird, sparrow and starling,


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

Actually at one point we did have a method of culling the human specie, it was call war. The Napoleonic Wars, World .War I, followed by World .War II. Then we discovered nuclear weaponry and decided a war fought in that type of theater could spell the end of our specie, as well as a goodly number of others. Back then we didn’t use terms like varmints, they were just referred to as enemies. After population numbers leveled off, peace treaties were signed , after which population numbers would again increase towards a later time of conflict. When nuclear weaponry came along it upset the pattern, there were still culls but they were more or less localized conflicts, nothing of mayor proportion . These, of course, have spawn ensuing refugee crises, while the rise in population numbers have lead to the current migration trends. Overtime as human spread across geographical area, they displace wild habitat and wildlife. Talk about crisis, a few years back there was always a paragraph in the Ontario Hunting Regulations that use to list endangered species. Now the list it seems has grown so long it would fill a booklet as thick as the Regulations. I can’t imagine why. Let’s blame the Cormorants they are as good a target as any. Maybe they should be added to the list of unprotected song birds along with the American crow, red-wing blackbird, cowbird, sparrow and starling,


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Sorry,bud,but,I think you're right off the wall with this.

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

Actually at one point we did have a method of culling the human specie, it was call war. The Napoleonic Wars, World .War I, followed by World .War II. Then we discovered nuclear weaponry and decided a war fought in that type of theater could spell the end of our specie, as well as a goodly number of others. Back then we didn’t use terms like varmints, they were just referred to as enemies. After population numbers leveled off, peace treaties were signed , after which population numbers would again increase towards a later time of conflict. When nuclear weaponry came along it upset the pattern, there were still culls but they were more or less localized conflicts, nothing of mayor proportion . These, of course, have spawn ensuing refugee crises, while the rise in population numbers have lead to the current migration trends. Overtime as human spread across geographical area, they displace wild habitat and wildlife. Talk about crisis, a few years back there was always a paragraph in the Ontario Hunting Regulations that use to list endangered species. Now the list it seems has grown so long it would fill a booklet as thick as the Regulations. I can’t imagine why. Let’s blame the Cormorants they are as good a target as any. Maybe they should be added to the list of unprotected song birds along with the American crow, red-wing blackbird, cowbird, sparrow and starling,


You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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You need help dude....seriousely.

Maybe he will be kind enough to show us the way......Gun Nut You start and we will( not bloody likely) follow.

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Maybe he will be kind enough to show us the way......Gun Nut You start and we will( not bloody likely) follow.

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I was thinking that myself....just didnt want to say it. I guess he chose not to procreate.....you know....to slow down the world population growth.