In praise of o'l ruff

Great post and the reason why that word "magical" is in the title

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Originally Posted by Sharon

Noticed a show on the tv called, "Grouse Hunting in Quebec". ... at an outfitters camp. I thought I'd watch that . Oh my gosh ,what a disappointment. No dogs and the grouse just sat on a back road. The guys walked along and shot them on the road like fish in a barrel, then congratulated each other. Surely that isn't grouse hunting ? Definitely not in my eyes.

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Don’t start this conversation on shooting Grouse on the ground. I commented last season about such practice and got bombarded with insults and then my comments defending my opinion got taken down. So much for freedom of speech and opinions.


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Originally Posted by BSP1

Don’t start this conversation on shooting Grouse on the ground. I commented last season about such practice and got bombarded with insults and then my comments defending my opinion got taken down. So much for freedom of speech and opinions.


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There's lots of ways to hunt grouse and traditions which vary greatly with whatever region you are from. I'm not going to tell someone they're doing it wrong. At least they are out there and that's the main thing.

We hunters are a stupid lot. We will criticize others because for example, they are using the wrong gun. "You can't use an 870 pump for grouse! It has to be a SxS with an English stock!" "What you shoot a crossbow? Real men shoot a recurve"!
And so it goes on. So stupid when we should all be supporting each other. To me it's more important "the character" of the person, than if they do everything the same as myself.
Well other than the recurve comment. That one's true! Hahaha

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kavanagh

There's lots of ways to hunt grouse and traditions which vary greatly with whatever region you are from. I'm not going to tell someone they're doing it wrong. At least they are out there and that's the main thing.

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And you are entitled to that opinion. What’s not ok is “censorship” on peoples opinions


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Originally Posted by BSP1

And you are entitled to that opinion. What’s not ok is “censorship” on peoples opinions


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I agree. My preferred method is wing shooting over my pointers with my sidelock SxS, but that's just me. I've seen it all and done it all over the last 50 years. My buddies will take a grouse on the ground or in a tree with their 12 gauges, and that's fine, I don't mind it. They want the meat and quite frankly they are some of the nicest guys and best company to have at camp and around a campfire than anyone I've ever met. They just do it differently than me is all. Neither one of us is right or wrong on paper. We have different goals and interests. I also wing shoot with my recurve with good success, but I'm not going to criticize a shotgunner. That's just how it works.
Censorship hurts everyone. People should be allowed to have different opinions and share them. It's how we all learn.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kavanagh

I agree. My preferred method is wing shooting over my pointers with my sidelock SxS, but that's just me. I've seen it all and done it all over the last 50 years. My buddies will take a grouse on the ground or in a tree with their 12 gauges, and that's fine, I don't mind it. They want the meat and quite frankly they are some of the nicest guys and best company to have at camp and around a campfire than anyone I've ever met. They just do it differently than me is all. Neither one of us is right or wrong on paper. We have different goals and interests. I also wing shoot with my recurve with good success, but I'm not going to criticize a shotgunner. That's just how it works.

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Me and a friend hunt that way. We only shoot a bird on the wing. But last year i expressed this opinion in a conversation on here and all my comments got deleted while the others remained. Like I said. So much for freedom of opinions and speech.


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Originally Posted by BSP1

Me and a friend hunt that way. We only shoot a bird on the wing. But last year i expressed this opinion in a conversation on here and all my comments got deleted while the others remained. Like I said. So much for freedom of opinions and speech.


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That's too bad something like that happened. My buddies and I rib each other all the time about this stuff and it's a lot of fun.
I have no interest in ground swatting. It's just no challenge to me. I'm even like that with my bow, they have to be flying. I also love the dog work more than anything else too. That's just me though. I think we should be able to express our opinions on topics such as this as long as we aren't trying to put down someone else. It's not a competition and I could care less if someone does it differently than me. They have their reasons and I have mine.
I know guys who spend,... gee I don't even know how much money on baiting deer each season. Whatever, I don't care. I don't and it suits me fine. Like I mentioned, it's not a competition on who does things better than the other guy. This is a heritage we have and we need to be careful to hang on to.