This is a Muzzleloading Game-Changer

Cool idea but I won't sell my Savage 10ML to buy one of them! Lol

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Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter

Cool idea but I won't sell my Savage 10ML to buy one of them! Lol

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Nothing worse than a non-smoker :)

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Nothing worse than a non-smoker :)

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Funny that most have given up "smoking " for health reasons.:silly::D

Cool. I’m sure it will sell. Will keep my TC Impact though. Also pretty quick loading with a speed loader. On second video they load bullet in first then the firestick? Looks like there’s a stopper in barrel?

[COLOR=#000000] Looks like there’s a stopper in barrel?


Yep,there is a shoulder in the barell, the bullet sits on it.
The firestick charge comes from the breech,and it is pushed all the way up against the bullet.
This design makes reloading those firestick "tubes" with different charges impossible.

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Originally Posted by gbk

[COLOR=#000000] Looks like there’s a stopper in barrel?


Yep,there is a shoulder in the barell, the bullet sits on it.
The firestick charge comes from the breech,and it is pushed all the way up against the bullet.
This design makes reloading those firestick "tubes" with different charges impossible.

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Exactly, that’s what I thought.

Meh

It doesn’t seem great to me. Nice idea but good points above. The cost is outa this world.
I can load $3 custom .435 BC bullets in any of my .458 ml with $.30 of powder that will kill any animal on the continent out to 500 yards....


Or I could use a 5 cent cast bullet with GC and 25 cents of powder to kill anything out to 300 yards....

looks like a fad.

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Originally Posted by Big Jack

The cost is outa this world.

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I agree, the cost is a non starter. When I take the ML's out for an shoot in the back yard I load 20-25 shots. A box of 20 saboted .50 Keith Nose cost me $12, adding a few $$ of powder, it costs me about $20.

An afternoon with this Firestick setup would cost about $180. ($7,50 x 25)

That's a lot of 'convenience ' with no real gain in performance or accuracy.

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Originally Posted by gbk

Yep,there is a shoulder in the barell, the bullet sits on it.

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I can forsee that 'shelve' in the barrel being a real pain to clean around. I use a solid jag with a swap cloth and it fits pretty tight to the bore. I can see it jamming up against it.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

I can forsee that 'shelve' in the barrel being a real pain to clean around. I use a solid jag with a swap cloth and it fits pretty tight to the bore. I can see it jamming up against it.

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You can clean from the muzzle and the breech, should not be too bad. I am curious about this 888 powder though, they say it cannot be cleaned up with water but not how corrosive it is.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

I agree, the cost is a non starter. When I take the ML's out for an shoot in the back yard I load 20-25 shots. A box of 20 saboted .50 Keith Nose cost me $12, adding a few $$ of powder, it costs me about $20.

An afternoon with this Firestick setup would cost about $180. ($7,50 x 25)

That's a lot of 'convenience ' with no real gain in performance or accuracy.

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Well, when you look at the guys pushing for BH209 and Barnes bullets that are pre-packaged in sabots are you really looking at that much difference in cost? You are $2 a shot for 100gr of BH209, or there about. Almost $2 a shot for the bullet, sure it is not $7.50 a shot but $4, and you don't have to waste a shot every time you go out and not see something.

I don't think it will deter those who are going out right now and buying the most hyped up powder and projectiles.