Opinion piece on the Spring Bear hunt

[QUOTE=Gilroy;1105619][QUOTE=smitty55;1105587]

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

.If no one shot a sow with cubs you would not have lost the Spring bear hunt back when Premier Harris caved into the anti hunters? .

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While I realize you just love to stir the pot Gilroy and I truly shouldn't feed the trolls, I just feel kind of sorry for you with your obvious lack of real entertainment so I will.

Harris surely did cave to the anti hunters back then. A sad day indeed. But it wasn't because anyone shot a sow with cubs. That was just the same claim the anti hunters continue to make as it sucks in the naive tree huggers who use emotion rather than facts to make decisions. You know the type, you see one every morning when you look in the mirror.

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Originally Posted by FishHog

Harris surely did cave to the anti hunters back then.A sad day indeed.

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:o I totally agree.

The portion of the article that is correct is this one.

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The Nuisance Bear Review Committee report (2003) concluded that evidence did not support the claim that a spring bear hunt controls, limits or reduces levels of nuisance activity by black bears. Nevertheless, the committee recommended that the spring bear hunt be reinstated for socio-economic reasons.

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The spring bear hunt isn't about meat it's about money. The bears are just coming out of hibernation and have less meat on them than later in the year. What they do have however is luxurious fur that hasn't been rubbed against trees.

Fatass Americans and Europeans come to Ontario, outfitters stick them in a stand, fill a barrel with stale donuts from Timmies and a hungry bear gets blasted so Bubba or Fritz can get a rug. Maybe the meat gets fed to the dogs.

It's the same as the losers who go to Africa and shoot a giraffe. The meat isn't particularly desirable, they are easy to hunt and kill and the hides are quite popular.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

It's the same as the losers who go to Africa and shoot a giraffe. The meat isn't particularly desirable, they are easy to hunt and kill and the hides are quite popular.

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Losers is pretty harsh. If you don't want to go shoot a giraffe that is your choice, but not a piece of that meat isn't consumed, and the money it puts into the local african economy is essential to those people. Again if its a renewable resource and a stable population, in my mind there is no issues with it. I've never done it and probably never will, but I have no problem with those who do and they certainly are not losers.

The true "losers" are the people who put some kind of emotional hierarchy on an animal because they think they are pretty, cute or otherwise cool. Things like swans, bears or giraffe's in this case. Animals are animals. If there is a huntable population and people that chose to hunt them, there is no problem with that. The fact that you for whatever reason don't want to, doesn't make those who choose to do so "losers".

Badenoch, your take on the bear hunt is narrow minded at best. Most hunters that I took in were blue collar workers who saved for their hunt of a lifetime. All took their meat back home and they took just about the same amount as a fall hunter. The only difference between spring and fall was the lack of fat in a spring bear and the amount of weight a bear would put on during their normal feeding in the summer months.
And when you look at it what's the difference with a local hunting deer from a treestand, a duck hunter shooting over dekes or calling in a Turkey or moose and pop them from close range.

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Originally Posted by FishHog

Losers is pretty harsh. If you don't want to go shoot a giraffe that is your choice, but not a piece of that meat isn't consumed, and the money it puts into the local african economy is essential to those people. Again if its a renewable resource and a stable population, in my mind there is no issues with it. I've never done it and probably never will, but I have no problem with those who do and they certainly are not losers.

The true "losers" are the people who put some kind of emotional hierarchy on an animal because they think they are pretty, cute or otherwise cool. Things like swans, bears or giraffe's in this case. Animals are animals. If there is a huntable population and people that chose to hunt them, there is no problem with that. The fact that you for whatever reason don't want to, doesn't make those who choose to do so "losers".

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I've worked in South Africa and Namibia, got to know professional hunters and they love giraffe hunters. It's an easy day for them and the money is good. It's laughable to suggest giraffe meat is "essential" to the local african economy. It's not in great demand when there are more delectable meats available.

My SA and Nam pals are happy to take your money so you can live out a "mighty great white hunter" fantasy by blasting a large, cumbersome animal that is docile, easy to find and not particularly wary.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

I've worked in South Africa and Namibia, got to know professional hunters and they love giraffe hunters. It's an easy day for them and the money is good. It's laughable to suggest giraffe meat is "essential" to the local african economy. It's not in great demand when there are more delectable meats available.

My SA and Nam pals are happy to take your money so you can live out a "mighty great white hunter" fantasy by blasting a large, cumbersome animal that is docile, easy to find and not particularly wary.

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Got one word for you....."ACCREDITATION ".

Or in plain english prove it.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

I've worked in South Africa and Namibia, got to know professional hunters and they love giraffe hunters. It's an easy day for them and the money is good. It's laughable to suggest giraffe meat is "essential" to the local african economy. It's not in great demand when there are more delectable meats available.

My SA and Nam pals are happy to take your money so you can live out a "mighty great white hunter" fantasy by blasting a large, cumbersome animal that is docile, easy to find and not particularly wary.

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Might want to read more clearly. I did not say the meat was essential. I said the money was and that the meat isn’t wasted.

Love giraffes all you want but the fact is if the population can support it and people want to hunt there is no reason not to.

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Originally Posted by FishHog

Might want to read more clearly. I did not say the meat was essential. I said the money was and that the meat isn’t wasted.

Love giraffes all you want but the fact is if the population can support it and people want to hunt there is no reason not to.

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Well said FishHog.

There was a fellow who used to post here who went by KMG Canada. It would be nice if he could chime in here.

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